Upgrading from K20D to K5 - is it really worth it?
Posted 20/02/2012 - 12:16
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prsjnb wrote:
To be honest, my motivation for supplementing my GX-10 and K20D with a K5, apart from the price drop and 'cashback' offer, was the recent takeover by Ricoh and the fear that my substantial investment in original and third-party Pentax-fit lenses and accessories might, should they decide to cease the development and manufacture of DSLRs, become the photographic equivalent of a 'junk bond'
Pessimistically yours,
Eeyore,
A.K.A. Jon
So what, in your view, was the reason Ricoh bought Pentax? To use the lens blanks to make coasters?To be honest, my motivation for supplementing my GX-10 and K20D with a K5, apart from the price drop and 'cashback' offer, was the recent takeover by Ricoh and the fear that my substantial investment in original and third-party Pentax-fit lenses and accessories might, should they decide to cease the development and manufacture of DSLRs, become the photographic equivalent of a 'junk bond'
Pessimistically yours,
Eeyore,
A.K.A. Jon
Ricoh's takeover, in my view, has cemented the future of Pentax. And of the K-mount. All Pentax has ever lacked is marketing expertise and cash. Now they have both, as well as an owner that knows the brand of yore and wants to develop it.
Optimistically yours
Tigger
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Posted 20/02/2012 - 13:08
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George, I actually agree with you on that
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Posted 20/02/2012 - 13:35
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my substantial investment in original and third-party Pentax-fit lenses and accessories might, should they decide to cease the development and manufacture of DSLRs, become the photographic equivalent of a 'junk bond'
You take that gamble with lots of things in life, Canon stitched up their customers once with a change of mount once, and can I find the latest blockbusters on VHS? no waymy substantial investment in original and third-party Pentax-fit lenses and accessories might, should they decide to cease the development and manufacture of DSLRs, become the photographic equivalent of a 'junk bond'
+1 Georges comment.
Posted 20/02/2012 - 13:56
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I have no worries about Ricoh. The K-mount, the extant lenses, and every existing camera body are not likely to vanish overnight! Anyone who needs further insurance and safety nets should have never been using Pentax in the first place, IMO, since Nikon and Canon have far superior support networks.
Posted 20/02/2012 - 16:01
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Lawks a-mercy, chaps
Had I realised that the forum doubles as an habitat for a pack of scavenging hyenas, I'd have been more circumspect about revealing that I have the inner strength and mentality of a lame gazelle
With a comment like that I'm guessing that you must be the alpha male, Robin
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Had I realised that the forum doubles as an habitat for a pack of scavenging hyenas, I'd have been more circumspect about revealing that I have the inner strength and mentality of a lame gazelle
rparmar wrote:
Anyone who needs further insurance and safety nets should have never been using Pentax in the first place...
.Anyone who needs further insurance and safety nets should have never been using Pentax in the first place...
With a comment like that I'm guessing that you must be the alpha male, Robin
Wounded of Wiltshire.
A.K.A. Jon
Posted 20/02/2012 - 16:12
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fatspider wrote:
+1 Georges comment.
I had you down as a Betamax man!
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my substantial investment in original and third-party Pentax-fit lenses and accessories might, should they decide to cease the development and manufacture of DSLRs, become the photographic equivalent of a 'junk bond'
You take that gamble with lots of things in life, Canon stitched up their customers once with a change of mount once, and can I find the latest blockbusters on VHS? no waymy substantial investment in original and third-party Pentax-fit lenses and accessories might, should they decide to cease the development and manufacture of DSLRs, become the photographic equivalent of a 'junk bond'
+1 Georges comment.
Posted 20/02/2012 - 17:02
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prsjnb wrote:
With a comment like that I'm guessing that you must be the alpha male, Robin
In this case your original post about the death of Pentax would be akin to crying wolf? With a comment like that I'm guessing that you must be the alpha male, Robin
Please do not fear and put pessimism aside!
Posted 20/02/2012 - 19:20
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rparmar wrote:
In this case your original post about the death of Pentax would be akin to crying wolf?
Please do not fear and put pessimism aside!
Robin Johnson is right: Not only is that authentic frontier gibberish, it also expresses a courage little seen in this day and age.
In this case your original post about the death of Pentax would be akin to crying wolf?
Please do not fear and put pessimism aside!
Posted 21/02/2012 - 12:40
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Anyone who uses Pentax knows that lenses from previous generations of cameras can be use on the current DSLRs, unlike Canikon who decided to switch mounts on their followers and thus these found that they cannot use the old lenses on the newer bodies because the companies decided to start a new mount for their new range of products to differentiate from the older manual cameras. I too still have an old Canon AE-1 camera but cannot use the lenses I have on the newer EOS system. Luckily for me I had two systems then and continued to use Pentax.
I started off with a Cosina CT-1 Super and then moved to a Chinon CP-7m and then to Pentax with the Z-20. I stayed with that Z-20 for almost 14 years until it gave up the ghost but the lenses I had accumulated meant that I would somehow still end up with Pentax. My first DSLR was a Canon Kiss (Japan version of the 400D). But I realised I had to use adapters to use my collection of K-mount lenses, Pentax and the like and so sold it off and bought a friend's K10D.
I am glad I stayed with Pentax and started with the K10D, then on to the K20D, then the K7 and now the K5, which I recently got on the 21st of December 2011 when prices started t go south and I could afford it. My buying pattern would be to wait until the new model comes out then buy the previous model at a lower price than when it was first introduced. I am not one of those early adopters who will have to find issues for Pentax to solve.
In Singapore, Pentaxians are a minority and we gather once a month to catch up and go on an outing so that we can introduce new Pentaxians to the community as well as the lenses we own. WE have lenses from the early '70s to the latest DA series.
When I was using the K20D, I found the AF lagging as I could not nail shots unless I increased the ISO, then I upgraded to the K7 because I needed the faster AF as I shoot school events. I only got the K5 because I found the price reasonable.
I must say that I do not regret my decision as they other early adopters have been nagging me to üpgrade"for the better sensor.
I only have this to say to the OP. Go ahead and purchase the K5. You will definitely love it.
Oh! I forgot to add, I do not like to use flash unless absolutely necessary and the K7 and K5 really suits my needs for non-flash photography.
I started off with a Cosina CT-1 Super and then moved to a Chinon CP-7m and then to Pentax with the Z-20. I stayed with that Z-20 for almost 14 years until it gave up the ghost but the lenses I had accumulated meant that I would somehow still end up with Pentax. My first DSLR was a Canon Kiss (Japan version of the 400D). But I realised I had to use adapters to use my collection of K-mount lenses, Pentax and the like and so sold it off and bought a friend's K10D.
I am glad I stayed with Pentax and started with the K10D, then on to the K20D, then the K7 and now the K5, which I recently got on the 21st of December 2011 when prices started t go south and I could afford it. My buying pattern would be to wait until the new model comes out then buy the previous model at a lower price than when it was first introduced. I am not one of those early adopters who will have to find issues for Pentax to solve.
In Singapore, Pentaxians are a minority and we gather once a month to catch up and go on an outing so that we can introduce new Pentaxians to the community as well as the lenses we own. WE have lenses from the early '70s to the latest DA series.
When I was using the K20D, I found the AF lagging as I could not nail shots unless I increased the ISO, then I upgraded to the K7 because I needed the faster AF as I shoot school events. I only got the K5 because I found the price reasonable.
I must say that I do not regret my decision as they other early adopters have been nagging me to üpgrade"for the better sensor.
I only have this to say to the OP. Go ahead and purchase the K5. You will definitely love it.
Oh! I forgot to add, I do not like to use flash unless absolutely necessary and the K7 and K5 really suits my needs for non-flash photography.
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Posted 21/02/2012 - 15:02
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I want a K-5.
You will be mine, oh yes you will.
You will be mine, oh yes you will.
Posted 23/02/2012 - 11:20
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Because most of you were sitting on the fence over whether this was a good idea or not I thought I'd take a chance on the upgrade - Just placed the order, should be in my hands tomorrow afternoon
Thank you all for your comments and advice
Thank you all for your comments and advice
LennyBloke
Posted 23/02/2012 - 13:19
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felix wrote:
Anyone who uses Pentax knows that lenses from previous generations of cameras can be use on the current DSLRs, unlike Canikon who decided to switch mounts on their followers and thus these found that they cannot use the old lenses on the newer bodies because the companies decided to start a new mount for their new
Could you please explain to me when Nikon changed mounts? My two Nikon DSLR's are fully compatible with Nikon AI converted lenses from 1959, metering with aperture priority and manual.Anyone who uses Pentax knows that lenses from previous generations of cameras can be use on the current DSLRs, unlike Canikon who decided to switch mounts on their followers and thus these found that they cannot use the old lenses on the newer bodies because the companies decided to start a new mount for their new
There is a serious risk of lesser informed readers actually believing your statement. In so doing, risk possible embarrassment in front of more informed Nikon users in the field or pub if the statement is repeated.
I would also question your statement that "Anyone who uses Pentax knows that lenses from previous generations of cameras can be use on the current DSLRs".
This is not a personal affront on your character.
Best regards
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Posted 24/02/2012 - 08:48
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K10D wrote:
Could you please explain to me when Nikon changed mounts? My two Nikon DSLR's are fully compatible with Nikon AI converted lenses from 1959, metering with aperture priority and manual.
Best regards
1977.Could you please explain to me when Nikon changed mounts? My two Nikon DSLR's are fully compatible with Nikon AI converted lenses from 1959, metering with aperture priority and manual.
Best regards
The AI system that was introduced in 1977 required Nikon owners to "convert" their older lenses in order to continue compatibility.
It is possible to convert a Pentax lens to fit on a Canon (various firms do this, I understand, so that Canon users can learn what it is like to have a good lens on their cameras). However, I wouldn't claim that Canons are lucky enough to enjoy full K-mount compatibilty.
Nonetheless, K10, I take your point. Nikon's basic mount is the oldest of all 135 format cameras and their derivatives.
G
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Posted 24/02/2012 - 09:23
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Pentax changed lens mounts radically in 1975 thereby denying owners the use of using older lenses without buying an adapter and losing the functionality of the automatic diaphagm.
Ken
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“We must avoid however, snapping away, shooting quickly and without thought, overloading ourselves with unnecessary images that clutter our memory and diminish the clarity of the whole.” - Henri Cartier-Bresson -
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While I do not doubt the many advantages of a K-5, having used one extensively on a wedding shoot, people are unfairly characterising the K20D.
As I tried to make clear in my earlier post, there are certain situations in which the K5 has the edge: not by a huge margin but worthwhile nonetheless. In the main, however, excepting the ergonomics and build which I agree are superior in the K20D, both are excellent photographic tools.
To be honest, my motivation for supplementing my GX-10 and K20D with a K5, apart from the price drop and 'cashback' offer, was the recent takeover by Ricoh and the fear that my substantial investment in original and third-party Pentax-fit lenses and accessories might, should they decide to cease the development and manufacture of DSLRs, become the photographic equivalent of a 'junk bond'
Pessimistically yours,
Eeyore,
A.K.A. Jon