Tripod head


womble

Link Posted 27/06/2022 - 12:42
On rare occasions I want to be able to point my lens high up, sometimes almost vertically. My three-way Manfrotto head just won't tilt back that far. The problem is also complicated by often needing a longish lens such as my DA* 50-135 or DA* 60-250.

Any recommendations? I'm worried that most ball-heads might not be too solid with the 60-250 mounted on it and tipped right back. Would some form of gimbal mount work? I've never used one. Ideally, I'd be using a low ISO and a moderate aperture to ensure good image quality, so the shutter speed would be low and thus need a good solid mount (often 1 second or slower).

For the curious, I am wanting to photograph details inside historic buildings such as churches, which are occasionally right up in the roof or at the top of the piers.

Thanks, Kris.
Kris Lockyear
It is an illusion that photos are made with the camera… they are made with the eye, heart and head. Henri Cartier-Bresson
Lots of film bodies, a couple of digital ones, too many lenses (mainly older glass) and a Horseman LE 5x4.

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Chrism8

Link Posted 27/06/2022 - 12:53
I reckon a gimbal would do it, have a look below, mine's a cheapish Neweer one ( iro £50 - £60 ), you can slide the mount bracket upwards from the base, therefore max'ing the angle you'd need for the camera, its an Arca-Swiss mount so pretty secure for the cam+lens



Chris

www.chrismillsphotography.co.uk

" A Hangover is something that occupies the Head you neglected to use the night before".

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K1 - Sigma 85mm F1.4, Pentax DFA 150 -450 F4.5 / 5.6, Pentax DFA* 24 - 70 F2.8

Samyang 14mm F2.8, Pentax DFA* 70-200 F2.8

K3iii + K3ii + K5iis converted to IR, Sigma 17 - 70 F2.8, Pentax 55 - 300 F4.5 / F5.6 PLM

Pwynnej

Link Posted 27/06/2022 - 14:17
I've got a Benro G something that is rock solid, even for lenses more substantial than the DA*60-250 (The D-FA*70-200/2.8 and Nikkor 80-400 and 200-500). Used it for star trails in the Kalahari 10 days ago.
Z-1p, K-1, P50
F50 1.7. FAs 24, 35, 50 1.4, 85, 135. DFA15-30, DFA24-70, D-FA*70-200. D-FA 100 (gone now!). The SMC-FA Limited Trinity.
Metz 45 CL-4, AF500FTZ. AF540FGZ.
Some Mamiya and some Nikon

Lubbyman

Link Posted 27/06/2022 - 16:43
Sounds like you need a geared head. I got a used Manfrotto 410 and am very pleased with it (other brands and models are available ). Rock solid and precise control. See below with K3 + DA300mm + 1.4TC (my heaviest lens) - not that I've actually used it like that for birds in flight! You would need a very solid tripod, that's quite a weight being slung to one side of the centre column.




Steve

pentaxian450

Link Posted 27/06/2022 - 21:52
I use a Manfrotto 468MGQ6. It's a ball head with a stunning locking mechanism. It is sturdy enough to support my cameras with a DA*60-250 mounted on a Gigapan Pro with absolute rigidity. That combination must weight around ten pounds, and it takes it all. And it can be tilted all the way up to 180 degrees when I tilt the ball in the "vertical" slot and use the swivel to orien it where I want.
Yves (another one of those crazy Canucks)

stub

Link Posted 28/06/2022 - 06:25
My input here would not be to look at the tripod head . But the tripod itself. Surely one where the centre coloum can be adjusted to a horizontal postion would do the trick ?
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Stuart..

womble

Link Posted 28/06/2022 - 16:36
stub wrote:
My input here would not be to look at the tripod head . But the tripod itself. Surely one where the centre coloum can be adjusted to a horizontal postion would do the trick ?

My tripod will do that, but it puts all the weight of tripod head plus long lens away from the central point of the tripod making it a bit unstable. I've dangled camera bags off the centre to help compensate in the past.

Thanks to everyone with your suggestions. I will mull a little. My gut feeling is the gimbal, partly because I can see it having other uses as well.

Best wishes, Kris/
Kris Lockyear
It is an illusion that photos are made with the camera… they are made with the eye, heart and head. Henri Cartier-Bresson
Lots of film bodies, a couple of digital ones, too many lenses (mainly older glass) and a Horseman LE 5x4.

My website

Chrism8

Link Posted 29/06/2022 - 15:04
Kris, if you'd like a play with a gimbal before making a purchase, I get to Watford fairly often and other parts of Hertfordshire, happy to lend you mine for a while.

PM me if you'd like to accept the offer
Chris

www.chrismillsphotography.co.uk

" A Hangover is something that occupies the Head you neglected to use the night before".

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K1 - Sigma 85mm F1.4, Pentax DFA 150 -450 F4.5 / 5.6, Pentax DFA* 24 - 70 F2.8

Samyang 14mm F2.8, Pentax DFA* 70-200 F2.8

K3iii + K3ii + K5iis converted to IR, Sigma 17 - 70 F2.8, Pentax 55 - 300 F4.5 / F5.6 PLM

cardiffgareth

Link Posted 29/06/2022 - 19:20
I use my 60-250mm with my B3 Benro head and there no issues with to be fair I don't point it directly up.

I also have the Benro B5 bead and that's a monster in size and weight BUT it does have a load capacity of 48lb or 22kg depending on how you prefer to measure weight!
Gareth
Welsh Photographer

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pipinmels

Link Posted 30/06/2022 - 08:17
I so miss my Slik 88 black diamond, never found a position I couldn't place the camera in.. Plastic oxidised after many years use, and never ever found a decent replacement..

LennyBloke

Link Posted 30/06/2022 - 10:56
pipinmels wrote:
I so miss my Slik 88 black diamond, never found a position I couldn't place the camera in.. Plastic oxidised after many years use, and never ever found a decent replacement..

I was in Photographic retail when the Slik 88 range debuted - they were an instant hit, so flexible and stylish - sold more of them than any other tripod of that time. Had one myself for many years
LennyBloke

GrumpyGrandPa

Link Posted 30/06/2022 - 11:32
STILL got my Slick 88.
Handle broke - my fault
Got a complete replacement via a local Gumtree site of another Slick 88 tripod in a bag for £10
Can't complain
Grumpy GrandPa, Recently Retired.
Gotta K-3 iii now, had a K-S2 and so suffering from a relapse and buying digital camera kit.
Previous addiction has resulted in using Zeniths, Yashicamat, Chinons, Minoltas, Samsungs, Fujis, Cosina, Kodak, Lumix, Canon, Nikon and Pentax etc etc - have tried most makes in the past 40 years. Love cameras - love taking photos even more

denverclassic

Link Posted 30/06/2022 - 17:36
I use a Platyball head. Rock-solid and does not drift.

Spad

Link Posted 08/07/2022 - 11:59
This.... 15 quid on ebay....

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/393626719541?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0...



At the beggining there was nothing....

Which exploded....

Spad

Link Posted 08/07/2022 - 12:44
Oh... it's solidly built, simple and does the job. Even with my K5, battery grip and Sigma 150-500 on it.
At the beggining there was nothing....

Which exploded....
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