To switch or not to switch


sponner

Link Posted 17/09/2012 - 16:31
I have acquired a new K7 which I have posted here for sale (with no interest to date).

I am an Olympus user with an E5, E 620 and mainly use their 12-60, 50-200 and 50mm macro lenses although I have kit lenses and a longer zoom available.

I love the image quality and sharpness of these lenses but the spec of the Oly bodies is looking long in the tooth so I am considering keeping the K7 and buying a K5 to go alongside it.

Can anyone offer any advice on lenses to match the IQ of the High grade Oly lenses mentioned above?

I am trying to weigh up whether a switch is viable IQ and wise.

Sponner

DaveHolmes

Link Posted 17/09/2012 - 16:54
I'm a fan of the FA line of lenses (previous generation Pentax now on DA)

D-FA100mm Macro will cost about 250 used (Got my Samsung version for 200)

A fast auto focus fifty can be had for around the same -

50-200mm WR (weather resistant) can be purchased as part of a K5/K7 kit or picked up fairly cheaply...

I just sold a Tamron 17-50mm 2.8 for 200...

If you're buying new... Check out SRSmicrosystems... Their prices are fairly competitive (they have a good used selection also) and a good benchmark for costing up...


Check out the reviews on the US site and the classifieds on here... Both are useful resources...

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Unless you do a lot of 'low-light' the K7 is by all accounts a fine body - and the colour rendition of pentax glass is just stunning IMO - I just upgraded from a K-x to K5 but had considered K7 and K20...
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Mike-P

Link Posted 17/09/2012 - 17:07
DaveHolmes wrote:

50-200mm WR (weather resistant) can be purchased as part of a K5/K7 kit or picked up fairly cheaply...

I just sold a Tamron 17-50mm 2.8 for 200...

I really know nothing about Olympus (I think they use a different crop factor to most as well) but I'm pretty sure the 50-200mm and 12-60mm lenses are in a different league entirely to the Pentax 50-200mm and Tamron 17-50mm.
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Last Edited by Mike-P on 17/09/2012 - 17:08

johnriley

Link Posted 17/09/2012 - 17:23
The crop factor is 2x as opposed to 1.5x so images will be noisier and the K-5 beats the E-5 hand down IMHO. Having said that, i do like the E-5 with its 12-60mm lens, but I wouldn't buy one. You can look at my EPZ reviews of both these cameras.

You just need Pentax lenses and you'll be fine. Even the kit lenses will not discredit pentax in comparision to the Olympus lenses you mention, but if you do want a higher grade of lens then look to the more expensive Pentax zooms and the Pentax primes.

You will not be disappointed, and I suspect you will be pleasantly surprised at how much better the colour and white balance are with Pentax. There is a reason I've stuck with Pentax over the years, and it's certainly not a financial one, it's all about image quality.
Best regards, John

sponner

Link Posted 17/09/2012 - 17:44
Thanks for the replies so far, I am sold on the pentax bodies as being better than my Olympus set up, it is just the lens choice that is confusing me.

The Oly "pro" grade lenses are really good but not cheap. The question confounding me is if I can get a zoom set up, covering 24-400 ish (full frame equivalent) with superb sharpness, low ca etc. together with an excellent prime or two for around 1200 which is what I will have to spend.
I am not averse to second hand.

Mike-P

Link Posted 17/09/2012 - 18:03
If I had 1200 to spend and wanted to cover a decent range I would be looking at the Pentax DA 17-70mm f4 and DA* 60-250mm f4.

Jules has both for sale in the used section so you would have enough left to source a prime (depending on focal length)

Both superb lenses.
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johnriley

Link Posted 17/09/2012 - 18:35
Mike's suggestion seems sound. You could add reasonably priced primes such as the 35mm f2.4 and 50mm f1.8 and maybe the D-FA 100mm Macro if budget allowed.

There are really quite a few suitable Pentax lenses, so pretty much anything from the current catalogue will serve very well.
Best regards, John

simonkit

Link Posted 17/09/2012 - 18:57
Mike-P wrote:
If I had 1200 to spend and wanted to cover a decent range I would be looking at the Pentax DA 17-70mm f4 and DA* 60-250mm f4.

Jules has both for sale in the used section so you would have enough left to source a prime (depending on focal length)

Both superb lenses.

Agree entirely with Mike about the DA17-70, brilliant zoom lens which IMHO stands up well against all but the very best Pentax primes (mainly FA 31mm Ltd)

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Offertonhatter

Link Posted 17/09/2012 - 20:01
When it comes to lenses, the nearest Pentax version to the Olympus 50-200 would be the DA*60-250mm F4 rather than the 50-200mm WR, which is more of a budget entry level zoom.
As for the 12-35mm, again it would be the DA*16-50mm F2.8. Having said that, the aformentioned Tamron 17-50mm F2.8 is a mighty lens in itself and would be considered a fine alternative.

The one advantage though is that although the Pentax lens range is fairly small, there is plenty of quality optics to choose from, depending on what subject matter you wish to shoot.

Hope this helps.
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rparmar

Link Posted 17/09/2012 - 21:18
sponner wrote:
Thanks for the replies so far, I am sold on the pentax bodies as being better than my Olympus set up, it is just the lens choice that is confusing me.

I made the same decision some years ago, but the advent of micro four-thirds changes things. Have you considered an E-M5 and maintaining some compatibility with the system you have? Despite the naysayers who haven't tried it, Olympus glass is top-notch, and the line-up is quite impressive.

sponner wrote:
The Oly "pro" grade lenses are really good but not cheap.

The same is true for Pentax, which has good fast glass in the longer end, but not the shorter. Their highest class of glass is weather-sealed and looks like this (with some indicative used prices):

DA* 16-50mm f/2.8 ED AL (IF) SDM = 600
DA* 50-135mm f/2.8 ED (IF) SDM = 600
DA* 60-250mm f/4 ED SDM = 775

I do not like the 16-50 as it has too much distortion and poor borders. Not to mention SDM failures. The two longer lenses render very nicely (though I have never owned them). On the cheaper side are three lenses that really punch above their weight, but are of necessity slower and not weather-sealed.

DA 16-45mm f/4 J ED AL = 200
DA 17-70mm f/4 ED AL [IF] SDM = 250
DA 55-300mm f/4.0-5.8 ED = 200

There are cheaper lenses yet, but I wouldn't recommend them.

So really it depends on what you are looking for.
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Last Edited by rparmar on 17/09/2012 - 21:18

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sponner

Link Posted 18/09/2012 - 07:55
That's great info thanks.

I am thinking

sigma 17-50 f2.8
DA* 50-135 (love the range of this one worried about sdm motor problems?)
DA* 60-250 f4

together with a kit 18-55 I have with the K7 would make a good two body set up for me and the daughter to share. Add some primes later.

Any thoughts on that, anyone?

ilovesaabs

Link Posted 18/09/2012 - 10:25
Someone threatening to jump ship and get a Pentax?

Has the world gone MAD?

Anyone coming on here would think that only Pentax has QC problems, I have no experience of Olympus camers but I do like the ethos (but not commercial ethics) of the company - very left field and desirable, and good quality.

Good advice from above, but I'd get just one of the DA* zooms - just depends on your type of photography - the 60-250 is amazing. If you like wider views try the DA 12-24 or the Samsung/Sigma equivalents.
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beakynet

Link Posted 18/09/2012 - 13:36
[quote:3496ace15f="sponner"]
sigma 17-50 f2.8
DA* 50-135 (love the range of this one worried about sdm motor problems?)
DA* 60-250 f4
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I have the 50-135 and it is by far my favourite lens, though my most used lens is now the 18-135, mainly due to the speed of focus and the compact size. I have had an SDM failure with my 50-135, however I think the later manufactured versions are more reliable. I had the motor replaced including sending the lens in for about 129 I think. The replaced motor has been fine.
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rparmar

Link Posted 18/09/2012 - 14:06
If you buy a lens from 2012 on, they have been redesigned so that SDM problems are fixed. The problem when buying used is to be sure you don't get stuck with a potential lemon. I believe the US Pentax forum has a serial number database to aid in purchases.

All companies have manufacturing problems and bad products. It's how they deal with them that reflects on their integrity. Pentax were very slow to fix the SDM problem and still have never officially acknowledged what all Pentax users know. This is terribly unprofessional.
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JohnX

Link Posted 18/09/2012 - 15:34
sponner wrote:
That's great info thanks.

I am thinking

...
DA* 50-135 (love the range of this one worried about sdm motor problems?)
...

There are a lot more of us out here who have had no SDM issues (even with pre-2012 lenses) than there are those who have.

The difference is a fair number of those who have had issues have raised it on the various fora, whereas the rest of us have said nothing.

The view of SDM is therefore very skewed.
Last Edited by JohnX on 18/09/2012 - 15:35
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