thoughts

just to pass the time on a cold saterday morning i went on a little road trip to srs

k1 is a nice piece of kit with the grip

but there is one down side and that is k1 with grip +150/450 lens (and i know what you are all thinking the price ) but no it actually is not its just you have to be jeff capes to handle it

even the 15/30 lense is a bit of a heavey weight but nice to handle

but still no 70/200 which was a shame

but cant complain just have to save up a bit more

Worth noting that when it does appear the 70-200 will be a beast at over 2kg. Almost twice the weight of the 15-30 and only 300gm lighter than the 150-450. A lot heavier than the Sigma equivalent, which is unusual.

Well that just decided it for me. Even if I could afford one I couldn't carry one.
Even the K5ii is proving a bit of a burden since dislocating both elbows, and having a frozen shoulder.

Yes I find that my heavy kit does not get much use. That's why the K1 + 28-105 is so attractive to me. I can always put a small fast prime in the side of the bag for extra flexibility without too much bulk.

know that combo was on par with the k3iiwith a 17/70 on it

The Pentax rep said that the 70-200mm will be available at the end of March (before the K1)

dave k

you meen mr happy he also said he thought it would be there today lol

....and perhaps forego another lens and get a gym membership instead

Except for the young, strong/or super-dedicated, the K1 might be best used close to a flat surface or a car. Brilliant for studio use where a tripod could take the strain but for travel and landscapes where any walking is involved, the weight and bulk might mar the enjoyment a little.

One thing I read which I hadn't considered, is the need for macro enthusiasts to use, say, a 105mm lens rather than a 50mm to preserve camera/subject distance. Also the need for even smaller apertures to maintain depth of field. I reckon there might be a of of learning to do as most of us have been used to APSC sized sensors for years. 50mm lenses are nice for portraits with a K5 but might be too short for the new camera.

Interesting times. I can't wait to see what wonderful pictures the wealthy early adopters take.

[quote:3496ace15f="bwlchmawr"]Except for the young, strong/or super-dedicated, the K1 might be best used close to a flat surface or a car. Brilliant for studio use where a tripod could take the strain but for travel and landscapes where any walking is involved, the weight and bulk might mar the enjoyment a little.

One thing I read which I hadn't considered, is the need for macro enthusiasts to use, say, a 105mm lens rather than a 50mm to preserve camera/subject distance. Also the need for even smaller apertures to maintain depth of field. I reckon there might be a of of learning to do as most of us have been used to APSC sized sensors for years. 50mm lenses are nice for portraits with a K5 but might be too short for the new camera.

Interesting times. I can't wait to see what wonderful pictures the wealthy early adopters take.[/quote

if i remeber right most portraits on 35 mm was done with a 75 mm so i would think it would be the same with the k1

don get me wrong about the weight the weight of the k1 is on par with the k3 and k3ii its when you start putting those lenses on you start to notice it as they are pretty big with a lot of glass areas

With lenses like the 43mm the K-1 is no worse than the K10/20/7/5/3. It only becomes big and bulky when you add a grip or some of the big new fast lenses. As to going back to 35mm angles-of-view, some of us never left them entirely! Apart from trying to justify spending more money on a camera body than we spent on our car, my biggest quandry is what I would do with my beloved 50-135, or my 12-24...

This is where us "oldies" who haven't un-learnt all our 35mm knowledge come in! With my Canon AE-1, I used both a Vivitar 90mm f2.8 Macro (still got it, FD mount) and Tamron 105 f2.5 Adaptall (still got it, with KA and FD mounts) for portraits. I recently purchased a K85mm f1.8 and look forward to using that on a K1 in due course (probably Christmas 2016)

Ah, yes lads. If you used to use 35mm film (or, like Kris, never stopped using it) then I'm sure it'll be a welcome return but lots of younger folks are used to seeing the world through APSC sized viewfinders then the wider view might take some getting used to. I can't remember the last time I even looked through a nice, big, bright viewfinder.

On an unrelated matter, I wonder how we'd look at sensor size if 35mm film hadn't been the standard most people used for all those years. Perhaps we wouldn't consider micro 4/3rds as "too small" and "half frame", or APSC as "cropped" and in some ways inferior. The K1 is not going to be as "good" as large format any way... It's all relative, I suppose, and a moot point.

My main interest in being able to use older lenses with their intended coverage. My shift lens would have a new lease of life, as would my K series 15mm f/3.5 lens. It would be fun to use my 85mm lenses for the purpose they were intended. Having said that, I can buy and process a lot of film for £1500! The K-1, "full frame" aside, also feels and handles like a high quality piece of equipment: solid, but not too heavy, carefully thought out controls, nice features and so on. If money was no object, I'd have my order in now. But, money is an object and as my wife pointed out, we spent less on her car than the body alone would cost, without adding in the need for a new standard zoom for day-to-day use and a multiple terabyte hard-disk to cope with the files. I'll probably buy one -- eventually -- but at the moment I think Pentax should be congratulated for bringing out a beautiful, highly specified camera at a price which is competitive with full-frame offerings from other marques.

K.

Top of the range Canons and Nikons with appropriate lenses and battery grips are surely much heavier than the average Pentax equipment. Also the Pentax K7 onwards models are lighter than the K10 and K20 models. I'm no spring chicken but I don't find the K3 or K5 too heavy and my K30, which I love for 'street photography', is positively lightweight.
But I never use grips and have never owned one. Isn't it because they use these that some photographers find camera equipment too heavy. Some of my camera club friends say they use them because they balance the camera. I've never had a balance problem with any of my Pentaxes, neither have I ever run out of battery power during as day's shoot.
Is the K1 really significantly heavier than a K3?
David