Second hand warranties

Pentaxophile
Posted 20/08/2010 - 09:06 Link
Apologies for the flood of questions, but i'm confused.

Pentax provide an excellent 2 year european warranty, but is this honoured if you buy 2nd hand from an individual?

If something goes wrong, do you send the item to Pentax or do you need to take it to the shop the first user bought it?

And do you need to provide evidence you bought the item from the first user?
Edited by Pentaxophile: 20/08/2010 - 09:10
flossie
Posted 20/08/2010 - 09:15 Link
Warranties are generally not transferable. If you buy second-hand, you would need to get a new warranty from the seller.

What a lot of consumers don't realise is that much of the cost of warranty repairs/replacement is actually paid by the shop, not the manufacturer (particularly shipping but there can be an excess, cost of restocking a replacement item, etc). Hence why internet retailers with their wafer-thin margins hate returns...
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Pentaxophile
Posted 20/08/2010 - 11:26 Link
Thanks. So when someone lists something on ebay or on the classifieds here, saying '6 months warranty remaining', it's of no benefit?

Erring towards buying new, for my next purchase.
flossie
Posted 20/08/2010 - 11:42 - Helpful Comment Link
I'm no legal expert, but that's how I understand it.

Probably depends if they registered the product or not, and if they supply the original receipt...

Also note that "international warranties" are often not worth the paper they are printed on, e.g. (random example) buy a Sigma lens in Hong Kong, Sigma UK won't want to know and tell you to take it HK. However, if you save £200 on the purchase price and repairs cost £100, you still are quids in!
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fatspider
Posted 20/08/2010 - 12:50 Link
Flossie is quite correct, the obligation of warranty is between the retailer and the original purchaser and unless otherwise specified thats where it ends.

Certain very nice retailers will honour warranties for a second user especially if the seller and buyer are members of this forum.
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Hardgravity
Posted 20/08/2010 - 12:59 Link
Quote:
Certain very nice retailers will honour warranties for a second user especially if the seller and buyer are members of this forum.
I think 'spider is referring to SRS here.

Chris at SRS is the gut to talk too if you buy an item with remaining warranty from their store.
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Pentaxophile
Posted 20/08/2010 - 13:05 Link
Wonderful SRS offer 1 year warranties on 2nd hand DSLRs anyway, so not an issue really (most dealers only go to 3 months!) I really meant buying from individuals.

I am thinking of buying from an individual who can supply proof of purchase (with the 2 year warranty, expires 2012 marked on receipt) but there is no way I can go back to where he purchased the item if something went wrong. Perhaps I need to check this with Pentax.
myles
Posted 20/08/2010 - 13:07 Link
I'm sure Chris will be delighted to be called a 'gut'!

I think that's you off his Christmas card list, HG, and you can probably forget any discounts as well.

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fatspider
Posted 20/08/2010 - 13:09 Link
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Pwynnej
Posted 20/08/2010 - 13:45 Link
If you go to the shop with the receipt and the item surely there shouldn't be a problem.

If I buy an item with cash and less than 1 year after purchase have to take it back as defective, the seller can't argue as they are quite unlikely to remember me from the time I've bought it - if I take my recent SRS purchase back to Chris he wouldn't be able to tell me from a fictional irish drunk priest with a pendant for bricks, gurrlllz and DRINK!

Now if you buy an item and to get the 2nd year guarantee like you do with Nikon you have to register the item with Nikon UK, that might be a different matter.
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robbie_d
Posted 20/08/2010 - 14:23 Link
Pwynnej wrote:
If you go to the shop with the receipt and the item surely there shouldn't be a problem.

If I buy an item with cash and less than 1 year after purchase have to take it back as defective, the seller can't argue as they are quite unlikely to remember me from the time I've bought it - if I take my recent SRS purchase back to Chris he wouldn't be able to tell me from a fictional irish drunk priest with a pendant for bricks, gurrlllz and DRINK!

Now if you buy an item and to get the 2nd year guarantee like you do with Nikon you have to register the item with Nikon UK, that might be a different matter.
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Pentaxophile
Posted 20/08/2010 - 14:30 Link
Pwynnej wrote:
f I buy an item with cash and less than 1 year after purchase have to take it back as defective, the seller can't argue as they are quite unlikely to remember me from the time I've bought it - if I take my recent SRS purchase back to Chris he wouldn't be able to tell me from a fictional irish drunk priest with a pendant for bricks, gurrlllz and DRINK!
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Thanks for the advice but I was talking about buying from an individual, where I cannot get to the shop he bought it from (say in another country or far flung part of UK), but where proof of purchase is provided. I previously thought I'd be able to go to Pentax directly for repairs, but Philstaff's recent story made me think otherwise, as he had to return the item to Currys.
Edited by Pentaxophile: 20/08/2010 - 14:31
Gwyn
Posted 20/08/2010 - 14:45 Link
Presumably an item given as a gift is still covered by the warranty - so as long as you have the receipt I can't see why a secondhand item shouldn't be covered.

I believe that under EU law an item has to be fit for purpose regardless of whether it is secondhand or not - the age of the item is what matters.
Pentaxophile
Posted 20/08/2010 - 14:54 Link
Thanks Gwyn. That makes sense. And I just checked out Pentax's uk website- apparently repairs are carried out by a company called Photopia, you just download a form from the Pentax website, and send the item there
Pwynnej
Posted 20/08/2010 - 15:49 Link
robbie_d wrote:


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