Second camera needed (Help required)

Pete,

re: the noise...

I'm not being patronising here.. but the mirror and lens are a couple of inches from your sinuses.. which are effectively a sound box. You hear the sound through your ears and through your head.. from, as I say, a couple of inches. Pop into a church, or somewhere equally as quiet, and get your girlfriend, or A N Other, to rattle off a few shots from various distances from you. You really won't hear that much, in comparison to taking the shots yourself.. and if you're the official photographer, or his mate, this will be understood by the attendees anyway.

HTH

Cheers

Liam

I had a wind up car that didn't work when I was a kid.....no point in winding it up if it doesn't do anything....goes both ways.

Petekd, people told you (and others) that saving a couple bucks on an off brand flash, doesn't make good business sense. Learn the lesson. (the 622 super and 120JTTL & 120J Parabolic Reflector Flash with quantim battery pack, are sunpaks PRO units, and in manual or auto modes work flawlessly.)

Noise is sometimes a bother, as is the flash burst. option # 1, use a non slr camera at that point in the wedding or fire less shots. I'd rather fire ten perfectly exposed, perfectly timed, well composed shots, than fire off a hundred and hope i got something good.

experience and timing.

ps. I suppose you could lessen the sound of mirror slap (that's what makes the noise. not really the shutter at all) by using a smaller mirror, pentaprism and the mechanics to swing the mrror. Then you'd be stuck with a nikon/canon viewfinder as well.

Dear fellow members

More like the othe way around. Here we go again, another three pages of garbage on what used to be, before last January, always intelligent dialogue. Do a search on all petekd's topics and notice there is a theme here.
Help, help, I'm in a breathless rush, here's my latest goofy idea, then 3 pages of people honestly trying to help him out, then Pete's reply of; you guys are all A-holes, and finally; OK I'm sorry and won't do it again.

This whole thing is a scam to evoke a response. Mattmatic had the right idea when he said he was not going to answer him anymore. I don't either and this is directed to everyone except him. So please don't reply to this Pete, I already know what I am.

That's actually a damn good summary.

I'll go along with my Z-1p to Petekd's next wedding.... you will hear my heavy breathing, the BANG BANG BANG of the Z-1ps mirror and me chuntering, cursing and swearing in the church. Apart from the sound of me cursing there was never any comment about the noise from my Pentax and none-too-subtle Mamiya 645

And I have been known to snore loudly even when I'm awake

All cameras from all quality manufacturers do the same thing well and they all offer pretty much the same ranges of excellent lenses. The only thing that matters is the one that looks and feels best to you. If you open a magazine or a wedding album for that matter nobody can say that was taken with a Pentax or this was taken with a Nikon, you can of course say that the picture was taken by a talented creative person or not. If noise is the prime concern and I really cant see how it can be at a wedding (I have shot several hundreds usually using 3 primes) then I seriously suggest you buy a rangefinder Leica. The Leica community has many great fora.

Bl***y H*ll!

I've been away for a couple of weeks and I just read the original post and fired a reply before reading all the other posts. There is so much good sense on this forum!

I went to a wedding on Saturday. The Canon using photographer was winding me up because he had the focus-confirmation beep switched on.

"Beep beep beep, beep beep beep, beep beep beep, click"

Wasn't the shutter/mirror noise that was intrusive.

I was thinking along the same lines as Cherrylicious, is Pete's head just nearer to the sound of his camera? Has he compared his K10D with the other brand side by side...?

Dan

One final point.

For years, many wedding photographers have used medium format cameras - popular choices being the Pentax 645, the Bronica 645 and various Mamiyas.

Perhaps you should listen to the noise those make before reaching any conclusions about what is an unacceptable level of noise.

Hint: they're not exactly silent.

G

Noise was not an issue as most churches did not allow photography during the actual ceremony. Where they do, or did, photography was expected to be unobtrusive. So a couple of discreet images is all that is required.

After the ceremony, noise at a wedding is not an issue, at least as far as photography is concerned.

In places where noise was an issue I used to use an MZ5 instead of the Z1p because it was a lot quieter in action. Generally I much prefered the noise of the Z1p though - it sounds like a proper camera.

I've had no issues with the noise level of my DS or K10D so far and that includes shooting candids & street portraits at close quarters.

Save the extra £99 and get a second K10D from SRS would be my choice. Why change down from a 10Mp model to 6Mp? You'll notice the difference, and will have wasted yet more money.
Once you've started to really get used to the 'pro' features of the K10D, you'll certainly miss them on the K100, wireless flash, for one.
I've had my DA* 16-50mm for a few days now and it is lightning fast and whisper quitte. You'll make more noise shuffling around the church than your AF will. Mirror slap?, all DSLR's make a noise, get over it.

How about one of these to keep the noise down?

http://tinyurl.com/2ttvya

Think I might just do that Pete

1. A second K10D
2. A 16-50mm DA

Pete

In that case, do let us know when you've bought it. Then we'll know that you will have made at least 2 good decisions. Buying your first K10D being the first one.

Cheers,