SDM Lenses
Posted 03/10/2009 - 19:25
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George Lazarette wrote:
But I might be wrong!
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I had the 50-135mm and the 60-250mm, the latter lens would benefit from a better motor, I can't comment on the 16-50mm as I've not used one, but in general the further the focusing parts move the stronger/faster the motor should be.loskeran wrote:
Where the Pentax? motor struggles I feel is all the weather sealing friction, surly they could have fitted a slightly more powerful one, as I’m sure they don’t make the motor assembly them selves.
As for the cost of a better motor, the very small amount would be well worth it.
I can't speak for the other lenses, but on the 16-50, everything that moves is inside. So I don't think the weather-sealing should make any difference.Where the Pentax? motor struggles I feel is all the weather sealing friction, surly they could have fitted a slightly more powerful one, as I’m sure they don’t make the motor assembly them selves.
As for the cost of a better motor, the very small amount would be well worth it.
But I might be wrong!
G
As for the other point, Nikon, I know on most of their bodies other than the cheapies, use a similar system to Pentax with a screw drive in the camera body, I had a D80.
So they will work with non motorised lenses with the right mount.
Canon on the other hand use only motors in the lenses, ever since they changed to the “EOS” mount.
Posted 03/10/2009 - 19:29
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George Lazarette wrote:
Do those Canon and Nikon lenses that use "ring" motors offer the ability to focus with non-USM enabled bodies?
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George, I may well have this wrong but the cheaper Nikon bodies, D40, D60 etc. will only work with USM lenses. To keep the price low, they have no internal motors. The higher end cameras do have an internal motor, so work with all the lenses.Do those Canon and Nikon lenses that use "ring" motors offer the ability to focus with non-USM enabled bodies?
G
Their "screw drive" lenses are silly fast as well in 90% plus of the cases.
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Posted 03/10/2009 - 20:10
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ChrisA wrote:
Apologies for the lack of research before asking this...
... but is it possible to force an SDM lens that can use the body's screw drive on a non-SDM-enabled body, to use the screw drive on an SDM-enabled body?
There are now two types of K mounts that use a SDM motor the KAF2 and KAF3. The KAF2 also has a screwdrive but KAF is SDM only so won't autofocus on non SDM cameras.Apologies for the lack of research before asking this...
... but is it possible to force an SDM lens that can use the body's screw drive on a non-SDM-enabled body, to use the screw drive on an SDM-enabled body?
As for enabling KAF2 lenses to use screwdriver the answer is no.
The lens has a digital contact with his ID and info what the lens can, if the camera knows it has a SDM it will use that.
You might disable the digital-info contact but with that you will also lose the ability to autofocus since the AF lenses also has a Digital-info contact that gives the info it can autofocus.
It's a software thing so they could make an option in the menu maybe?
Did I now explain it too much or not?
Martin always blame me that I give too much information.
George Lazarette wrote:
Do those Canon and Nikon lenses that use "ring" motors offer the ability to focus with non-USM enabled bodies?
Neither does Pentax with the KAF3 mount and they have said that designing KAF2 is too expensive, complex and that KAF3 lenses can be make smaller and lighter.Do those Canon and Nikon lenses that use "ring" motors offer the ability to focus with non-USM enabled bodies?
So further DA* will probable not AF on non-SDM bodies.
ps. Sorry George, thought I had the right word (whining) ^^;
Posted 03/10/2009 - 20:48
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Anvh wrote:
As for enabling KAF2 lenses to use screwdriver the answer is no.
The lens has a digital contact with his ID and info what the lens can, if the camera knows it has a SDM it will use that.
You might disable the digital-info contact but with that you will also lose the ability to autofocus since the AF lenses also has a Digital-info contact that gives the info it can autofocus.
It's a software thing so they could make an option in the menu maybe?
The K10D can be flashed back one version which was the firmware that enabled SDM on the body. This will allow it to use the DA* lenses that have screw drive ability to focus using this method only.
As for enabling KAF2 lenses to use screwdriver the answer is no.
The lens has a digital contact with his ID and info what the lens can, if the camera knows it has a SDM it will use that.
You might disable the digital-info contact but with that you will also lose the ability to autofocus since the AF lenses also has a Digital-info contact that gives the info it can autofocus.
It's a software thing so they could make an option in the menu maybe?
Posted 03/10/2009 - 20:49
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RichardDay wrote:
...Please don't confuse the word supersonic or ultrasonic with fast, it's the method used to energise the motor as opposed to a DC micro-motor. An explanation can be found here:
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Good clarification Richard. I suspect that this is where a lot of people are getting confused.
...Please don't confuse the word supersonic or ultrasonic with fast, it's the method used to energise the motor as opposed to a DC micro-motor. An explanation can be found here:
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Posted 03/10/2009 - 21:10
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Mike-P wrote:
The K10D can be flashed back one version which was the firmware that enabled SDM on the body. This will allow it to use the DA* lenses that have screw drive ability to focus using this method only.
Yes that's the one exception, I simply wished they had a menu option though
The K10D can be flashed back one version which was the firmware that enabled SDM on the body. This will allow it to use the DA* lenses that have screw drive ability to focus using this method only.
Posted 03/10/2009 - 21:19
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Oggy wrote:
Here is one in action linkRichardDay wrote:
...Please don't confuse the word supersonic or ultrasonic with fast, it's the method used to energise the motor as opposed to a DC micro-motor. An explanation can be found here:
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Good clarification Richard. I suspect that this is where a lot of people are getting confused....Please don't confuse the word supersonic or ultrasonic with fast, it's the method used to energise the motor as opposed to a DC micro-motor. An explanation can be found here:
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At least not one used in lenses but it works on the same principle.
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George, I think you are correct regarding seals and focus motor capacity, it should make no difference as the seals do not offer any resistance to the motor (the mechanism is internal with respect to the seals).
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