Samsung and Pentax Difference

samebrand
Posted 17/12/2008 - 12:29 Link
Hi,

Just wondered what the difference was between the Samsung GX10 and the Pentax K10d?

Everything in my house is Samsung (TV, DVD, Fridge, Freezer, Washing machine, Microwave etc etc) and really want to stick with the same brand again.

Would i be welcome on the forum due it being Samsung and not Pentax (even though they are united)

Cheers

Matt
Tooks
Posted 17/12/2008 - 12:33 Link
I know what you mean about sticking with trusted brands, I tried for ages to find a SMEG camera, but with no success!!

I don't think there are any differences between the two cameras, branding, menus and button placement aside.

I can't speak for the 'forum', but I for one will welcome you onto the forum!

Heck, they haven't chased me away yet, and I don't own any Pentax kit at the moment!!
Edited by Tooks: 17/12/2008 - 12:33
Gwyn
Posted 17/12/2008 - 12:37 Link
Welcome to the forum! There are already plenty of members who use Samsungs so you are most welcome here.

There are differences in the grips I believe, and the Samsung only offers Jpeg and DNG, no RAW.
samebrand
Posted 17/12/2008 - 12:39 Link
DNG is raw isnt it?
MattMatic
Posted 17/12/2008 - 12:51 Link
DNG is RAW - you are correct.
The Pentax adds "PEF" RAW format as well - which is a compressed RAW. It only really means you get more shots per card - that's all.

Some reviews have indicated that the JPG images out of camera are better from the Samsung... who knows! They both take the same lenses, the same flash guns, and have nearly identical features. The only difference is in the molding - and the grips are consequently different shapes.

No one is really sure how the two companies shared the development. Certainly the K20D CMOS sensor was developed by Samsung.

Either way it's no problem being here The features and way-of-working are identical - so you can always ask and (generally ) get a sensible answer.

Matt
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beakynet
Posted 17/12/2008 - 12:52 Link
samebrand wrote:
DNG is raw isnt it?
Yes it is. The difference is PEF which is Pentax's own format RAW and is compressed. The DNG format used is not compressed.

I also believe that the processing to JPG is slightly different in the Samsung to the K10D. But for all purposes here, they are the same camera!

Welcome to the Forum, by the way!
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iceblinker
Posted 17/12/2008 - 13:58 Link
The RAW files are larger and the menus are different.

Is the shape of the right-hand grip the same?
~Pete
Hyram
Posted 17/12/2008 - 14:10 Link
Slightly off topic, people used to say years ago that you could not go wrong buying a Sony (no matter what it was).

But that was back in the days when Sony was a market innovator.

Now they have 'lost the plot' in most areas.
Hyram

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ttk
Posted 17/12/2008 - 17:28 Link
Hyram wrote:


But that was back in the days when Sony was a market innovator.

Now they have 'lost the plot' in most areas.
And 800 jobs down the tubes as well, still they have Jessops
Tel,
gartmore
Posted 17/12/2008 - 18:02 Link
Tooks wrote:
I know what you mean about sticking with trusted brands, I tried for ages to find a SMEG camera, but with no success!!

I don't think there are any differences between the two cameras, branding, menus and button placement aside.

I can't speak for the 'forum', but I for one will welcome you onto the forum!

Heck, they haven't chased me away yet, and I don't own any Pentax kit at the moment!!
I'm looking for a Pentax fridge and cooker. The SMEG range cooker was replaced twice under warranty and has had £400 spent on post-warranty repairs since. At the moment the oven door wont close properly and two gas rings wont stay lit. The retro styled fridge was replaced three times under warranty and has now been consigned to the garage as a beer container. We replaced it with a Samsung - nearest thing to a Pentax fridge we could find
Ken
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womble
Posted 17/12/2008 - 19:15 Link
gartmore wrote:
I'm looking for a Pentax fridge and cooker.
Try SRS?
Kris Lockyear
It is an illusion that photos are made with the camera… they are made with the eye, heart and head. Henri Cartier-Bresson
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ttk
Posted 17/12/2008 - 19:45 Link
womble wrote:


Try SRS?
We know there good Kris, but not that good ARE they.
Tel,
Edited by ttk: 17/12/2008 - 19:46
Anvh
Posted 17/12/2008 - 23:00 Link
They are basicly the same but Pentax has a very good service I believe.
I have no idea how the service of Samsung is but it's unlikely that they are better.
Pentax cameras also hold their value better than Samsung that is also a point worth to think about if you want to sell it over a while.

What's the price of the GX10 these days btw, they are very hard to find?
Maybe if you stretch your budget a bit you can pick up a Pentax K20D they are now £579 and you also get a £100 cashback on them.
www.srsmicrosystems.co.uk

off topic.
I've heared that Samsung doesn't really see breath in the DSLR market so they are going to stop producing them but they will continue making and developing sensors.
Can anyone confirm this, I can't find the page and I ain't so sure anymore if it's true.
Stefan
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samebrand
Posted 21/12/2008 - 11:24 Link
WOW, just seen in Jessops that they are doing the K20d with 18-55 lens for under £490

Thats good price!
Tooks
Posted 21/12/2008 - 18:59 Link
samebrand wrote:
WOW, just seen in Jessops that they are doing the K20d with 18-55 lens for under £490

Thats good price!
Got a link?

Is that before or after cashback?
Edited by Tooks: 21/12/2008 - 19:00

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