Rig for Macros
Posted 09/04/2019 - 17:12
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A clever adaption, I may well look to copy your idea, one thought though, would you not be better to have the tripod head touching the base, I.e a shorter screw mount, would remove any vibration / possible movement
Chris
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K1 - Sigma 85mm F1.4, Pentax DFA 150 -450 F4.5 / 5.6, Pentax DFA* 24 - 70 F2.8
Samyang 14mm F2.8, Pentax DFA* 70-200 F2.8
K3iii + K3ii + K5iis converted to IR, Sigma 17 - 70 F2.8, Pentax 55 - 300 F4.5 / F5.6 PLM
Posted 09/04/2019 - 17:33
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Yes, thank you. Indeed it would be more stable, and a shorter screw is now on my shopping list. Also, since taking the photograph, I have added a washer and another nut tightened onto the bed's surface, which has strengthened the connection considerably.
Posted 09/04/2019 - 18:39
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A nice it of sideways thinking; thanks for sharing. I also might have a closer look at this idea.
Andy
Posted 10/04/2019 - 01:05
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I use a similar arrangement but instead of having the camera on the moveable mount (which is a BPM Focuslide mounted on a tripod) I put the subject on it so I can move it towards - away from the camera, which sits untouched on another tripod nearby. When you have a 200mm prime with a reverse mounted 35mm on the front of that, the slightest touching of the camera or tripod sends things wobbling out of control instantly. With the focuslide, you can move the subject micrometrically very easily.
Here is the result - the "thread" is a length of money spider silk.
I shall nevertheless have a look at some engineering outlets for that super two-way job. I've got one on the lathe but it's a bit hefty!
Have a look at this .... link
Here is the result - the "thread" is a length of money spider silk.
I shall nevertheless have a look at some engineering outlets for that super two-way job. I've got one on the lathe but it's a bit hefty!
Have a look at this .... link
Posted 10/04/2019 - 07:39
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Hmmmm.......... that's also a clever way of a similar thing, but the opposite approach
Chris
www.chrismillsphotography.co.uk
" A Hangover is something that occupies the Head you neglected to use the night before".
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K1 - Sigma 85mm F1.4, Pentax DFA 150 -450 F4.5 / 5.6, Pentax DFA* 24 - 70 F2.8
Samyang 14mm F2.8, Pentax DFA* 70-200 F2.8
K3iii + K3ii + K5iis converted to IR, Sigma 17 - 70 F2.8, Pentax 55 - 300 F4.5 / F5.6 PLM
www.chrismillsphotography.co.uk
" A Hangover is something that occupies the Head you neglected to use the night before".
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K1 - Sigma 85mm F1.4, Pentax DFA 150 -450 F4.5 / 5.6, Pentax DFA* 24 - 70 F2.8
Samyang 14mm F2.8, Pentax DFA* 70-200 F2.8
K3iii + K3ii + K5iis converted to IR, Sigma 17 - 70 F2.8, Pentax 55 - 300 F4.5 / F5.6 PLM
Posted 11/04/2019 - 17:57
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For anybody interested in focus stacking macro images, I just came across this free software http://www.picolay.de/
It takes some time to produce the stacked image, especially if you need to auto-align your images. Combine-ZP is the only other free focus stacking software I've come across, there may be others.
Disclaimer: I have no connection to or financial interest in this software.
It takes some time to produce the stacked image, especially if you need to auto-align your images. Combine-ZP is the only other free focus stacking software I've come across, there may be others.
Disclaimer: I have no connection to or financial interest in this software.
Peter E Smith - flickr Photostream
Posted 11/04/2019 - 18:34
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You can focus stack in photoshop but I don't know how good it is.
I know what i like, If not always why.
Posted 12/04/2019 - 08:54
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derek897 wrote:
You can focus stack in Photoshop but I don't know how good it is.
You can focus stack in Photoshop but I don't know how good it is.
Affinity Photo does a better job IMHO. I have a stack of 22 images of a wasp nest and I've tried most of the available stacking software and almost all have some issues with it, Photoshop and CombineZP seem to leave OOF artifacts in various places. Picolay couldn't align all 22 images, but it might if I played longer with it. I got the best result from Affinity Photo but it did take an age to get the job done, Zerene Stacker is too expensive in my opinion and I can't remember how well (or badly) Helicon Focus performed, it was a while ago. On1 PhotoRAW has a stack limit of 11(maybe 14) frames but there is a workaround. Too fiddly for me.
Peter E Smith - flickr Photostream
Posted 13/04/2019 - 01:19
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I have learned always to leave a large, otherwise unnecessary border around shots destined for stacking since that is the area that will suffer as the images are successively aligned. Remember that as you shoot closer and closer to the subject, (or further away, depending on how you do it), the perspective shifts. Shifting it back to match the earlier/ later shots can do a lot of violence to the extreme edges. Keeping the big border area consigns most of that violence outside the area of interest.
Posted 13/04/2019 - 15:10
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When I tried stacking on a wasp's nest, by moving the camera in (I think) 1 mm steps the result was awful due to the perspective shift. I don't remember details, as it was 2-3 years ago and I was using one of the free stacking programs.
I have since wondered if it would be permissible to keep object and camera fixed, and shift focus in tiny steps? That would keep a more constant perspective - or won't it work that way? (I have not yet tried to repeat the wasp nest experiment).
I appreciate what has been said about camera vibrations if one touches it, but in my case I have a massive piece of machinery that I fix the camera to. It has a screw to move the camera in one axis, and is solid enough to avoid any vibration.
I have since wondered if it would be permissible to keep object and camera fixed, and shift focus in tiny steps? That would keep a more constant perspective - or won't it work that way? (I have not yet tried to repeat the wasp nest experiment).
I appreciate what has been said about camera vibrations if one touches it, but in my case I have a massive piece of machinery that I fix the camera to. It has a screw to move the camera in one axis, and is solid enough to avoid any vibration.
A few of my photographs in flickr.
Lizars 1910 "Challenge" quarter-plate camera; and some more recent stuff.
Lizars 1910 "Challenge" quarter-plate camera; and some more recent stuff.
Posted 14/04/2019 - 01:18
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That's how I began doing it before I realised you could move either the subject or the camera. The main problem is estimating the increments to keep them more or less equal. A twist of the focus ring produces a lot more result than an equal twist on the screw of a rig (which usually has a handy scale to assist). And no matter how carefully you fixed the camera, because you are exerting a sideways force on it by gripping the focus ring, you risk shifting the whole lot laterally when you are 3/4 of the way through..... damn!
Posted 14/04/2019 - 07:01
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The later Nikon DSLR's have a 'Focus Shifting' function to produce stacks of up to 300 images, The D850, Z7, and Z6 cameras have it that I know of. It should be so easy to implement in firmware I'm a bit disappointed that Pentax hasn't done it yet, given their range of excellent macro lenses. Search for 'focus stacking' on YouTube to see it in action.
Peter E Smith - flickr Photostream
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slight play in it, but doesn't move unless you push against the camera, which you never actually touch. GO 4IT.