RAW processors


Lancer

Link Posted 08/09/2013 - 15:13
Forgive me if this has been dealt with elsewhere, but I couldn't find it on search; what Raw processing software would people on here recommend?

I have the cut-down version of Silkypix that shipped with my K30, but on a recent I-day DSLR course run by my local authority, the lecturer (a Canon user) recommended Lightroom. He said that it gave much better results than the software shipped with his camera, so I was wondering what people on here would suggest?

Thanks.

McGregNi

Link Posted 08/09/2013 - 15:26
The Silkypix product in its various forms has neve been regarded as an easy to use or intuitive piece of software, but then when people have used it and got used to it generally they report very good results. I'd keep it available for once you've tried some RAW processing and gained some experience - you may find certain things that it can do very well.

What to choose first depends on what you're overall needs are and how much detailed work you want to carry out in RAW (as opposed to making a basic conversion and doing deatailed stuff in Photoshop for example).

If you need comprehensive cataloging and management of images as well detailed RAW conversion, then Lightroom is the way to go according to most opinions you would hear. If its something more simple in these areas plus the guts of Photoshop for detailed editing work, then Photoshop Elements provides all that.

There are a few other paid-for options, Bibble is one, I'm sure others will mention the rest that include image cataloging.

If you're happy with how you organise your image collection and just want RAW conversion, then there are a few quality free products worth investigating. I use RawTherapee for more detailed and complex work, and the Pentax Digital Camera Utility for shots with simpler needs. But others will no doubt suggest a number of alternatives to these that are also free.
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bettyswolloks

Link Posted 08/09/2013 - 15:36
I use lightroom and recommend it wholeheartedly Mate.
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alfpics

Link Posted 08/09/2013 - 15:48
bettyswolloks wrote:
I use lightroom and recommend it wholeheartedly Mate.

Me too!
Andy
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AndrewA

Link Posted 08/09/2013 - 16:17
I use PSE 10, but have recently started to use Lightroom 3. Not got used to it yet, but getting there.
Andrew

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Smeggypants

Link Posted 08/09/2013 - 16:32
Lightroom 4

Works a treat
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Aitch53

Link Posted 08/09/2013 - 17:00
Hmmm, have you seen about Adobe's new idea for Photoshop etc?

Apparently includes Lightroom as well.
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andrewk

Link Posted 08/09/2013 - 17:43
McGregNi wrote:
I use RawTherapee for more detailed and complex work

I have RawTherapee installed and have used it occasionally, but not recently for it's primary purpose. I usually use Photoshop Elements 8 (ACR6.2) for RAW conversion and editing - as it seems to produce results that are just as good and with less effort. Having said that, RawTherapee is a complex and powerful application that I have yet to get to grips with properly. It has a long, steep learning curve that I have not yet fully scaled, so I'm sure there is more to come. Maybe it'll become my fave RAW converter in time.

Unlike PSE, Rawtherapee will open an image, allow me to convert the output profile from sRGB to DSCL's profile for lustre paper and their Fuji printers and resave as a JPEG in only a few key presses/mouse clicks. Photoshop CS6 would let me do the same easily, but PSE can only convert from sRGB to Adobe RBG and back.

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Fletcher8

Link Posted 08/09/2013 - 18:05
You won't go wrong with Lightroom 5, it's very, very good.
Fletcher8.

McGregNi

Link Posted 08/09/2013 - 18:30
Its true that RawTherapee has many layers of complexity, but you don't need to use everything at once. I have got to grips with a few key adjustment controls that work brilliantly and left others to learn about in future (EG the 'LAB' mode tabs).

But its sharpening, edge restricted sharpening and noise reuction are excellent, as are the colour balance controls and extremely sophisticated highlight reduction / restoration feature.

Also as a big bonus it includes batch processesing capability - save your own settings as a 'preset', apply it to any selected files in the browser window, send to queue, then click process - go off and let it get on with it.

And its free.
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Smeggypants

Link Posted 08/09/2013 - 18:52
Aitch53 wrote:
Hmmm, have you seen about Adobe's new idea for Photoshop etc?

Apparently includes Lightroom as well.

Yup it's been discussed here and pretty much on every other photography forum months ago. The majority consensus I've seen is that the idea is hated with a passion.

Lightroom continues to be available to buy ( for now )
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Gamka

Link Posted 08/09/2013 - 19:35
Why not ask him if he has tried SilkyPix ...

If he says no, ask him how he can recommend lightroom when he has not tried alternative software.

microlight2010

Link Posted 08/09/2013 - 19:42
Shooting with a K-5, processing RAW with Pentax Digital Camera Utility 4, finishing with levels/curves/sharpening in Photoshop. Have tried RawTherapee but haven't got to grips with it as there are so many options! The great thing about starting the workflow with PDCU4 is that it imports and applies the camera JPEG settings (the ones you see on the camera screen) to the RAW files, so removing one step in the workflow. PDCU also has some very cool distortion correction and tilt adjustments, although its curves graph is just too small to be really useful. Once you're familiar with it, it's a pretty good RAW processor.

Maybe I'll try RawTherapee again, to see if I can get a basic set of tools - which ones do you use, Nigel? I tried the freeware Faststone Viewer, which has a nice feature set - but it does not seem to do a good job of processing PEFs.

Cheers,
Martyn
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matwhittington

Link Posted 08/09/2013 - 20:34
For a long time I used adobe camera RAW which is integral to photoshop elements, but I have recently been using DXO Optics Pro, and think it is the tops!

Cheers
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CMW

Link Posted 08/09/2013 - 21:02
Lightroom is intuitive, to the degree that you can just get on with everything. I rarely find the need to use Photoshop, which cannot be called intuitive, whatever its virtues. Both programs handle various plug-ins, making everything pretty seemless.
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