Problem viewing photos on digital photo frame

welshie47
Posted 01/01/2008 - 16:53 Link
Help..I bought my wife a Pentax Optio E35, and a digital photo frame so she could view her photos...But when we take the sd memory card out of the camera and put it in the digital photo frame, the photos are of such a poor quality you cant really see them...
I tried putting the memory card out of my camera into the digital photo frame and the photos were great, so i know the photo frame is working ok.
I then tried my memory card in her camera, but that made no difference, the photos came out bad again. So i know there`s nothing wrong with the memory card.
Are there any settings i need to change in her Pentax OptioE35 that would let her view her photos on the photo frame. Currently everything is set pretty much on Auto.
The photo frame is compatible with cameras up to 8 mega pixels, so there shouldn`t be a problem there, as the Pentax is a 7 mega pixel camera.
If i put her memory card into my laptop, i can view the photos no problem.
i`d be grateful of any help anyone could offer to sort out this problem.
iceblinker
Posted 01/01/2008 - 17:28 Link
In what way do the pictures look poor?
~Pete
MX veteran
Posted 01/01/2008 - 18:39 Link
What is the quality like when you load them to your pc?
K100D Super, 18-55, 50-200, Sigma 10-20, Sigma 70mm macro and lots of old lenses
Don
Posted 01/01/2008 - 18:42 Link
it's probably playing the thumbnails, not the large images.
Fired many shots. Didn't kill anything.
welshie47
Posted 01/01/2008 - 18:53 Link
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In what way do the pictures look poor?
Very grainy, not clear at all..
welshie47
Posted 01/01/2008 - 18:54 Link
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What is the quality like when you load them to your pc?
The quality is good when on the PC..
welshie47
Posted 01/01/2008 - 18:57 Link
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it's probably playing the thumbnails, not the large images.
But when i put my memory card in the pics are great..I put the wifes card in my camera, and the pics were great..That`s how i know its not a problem with the digital photo frame or memory card..It`s got to be something to do with the camera.
George Lazarette
Posted 01/01/2008 - 19:03 Link
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Don wrote:
it's probably playing the thumbnails, not the large images.
But when i put my memory card in the pics are great..I put the wifes card in my camera, and the pics were great..That`s how i know its not a problem with the digital photo frame or memory card..It`s got to be something to do with the camera.
If the pictures are OK on the pc, it can hardly be a problem with the camera.

I suggest you read the instructions again.

G
Keywords: Charming, polite, and generally agreeable.
Don
Posted 01/01/2008 - 19:24 Link
my bet is the way the camera writes to the memory card, creates a folder for the viewing thumbnails and a seperate folder for the hi res images, and your photoframe is reading the low res folder only. it may even be the file structure or file names that's doing it.

take the images from the camera, to the laptop, then format the memory card with the laptop and copy the images back to the card. then see if the images look good on the photoframe.
Fired many shots. Didn't kill anything.
Daniel Bridge
Posted 01/01/2008 - 19:28 Link
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I suggest you read the instructions again.

G


Or you could read his problem again George.

When he uses the pics from his camera, not the Optio, the pics look fine on the 'frame', so it's not an issue with the frame. If he uses the card from his camera in his wife's Optio, the pics look naff on the frame, so it's not a card issue. Therefore it would seem to be a problem with either the camera, or the way the frame deals with the pics from the Optio.

As Don said, it may be that for some reason the frame is showing the a low res version of the image, perhaps from an embedded thumbnail. Or perhaps the way the image is resized for display is messing up the definition.

Try the Optio on a different sized image, ie. set it to 3Mp or something, lower than the hi-res 7Mp, and see how that looks, it might be that the pixel dimensions are more suited to the resizing than the &mp ones.

Dan
K-3, a macro lens and a DA*300mm...
welshie47
Posted 01/01/2008 - 20:00 Link
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my bet is the way the camera writes to the memory card, creates a folder for the viewing thumbnails and a seperate folder for the hi res images, and your photoframe is reading the low res folder only. it may even be the file structure or file names that's doing it.

take the images from the camera, to the laptop, then format the memory card with the laptop and copy the images back to the card. then see if the images look good on the photoframe.
Whey Hey...Well done Don, & a big thank you..That Worked..
Nice one.
One more question though mate, do i have to follow that procedure every time, or is there a way of setting up the camera differantly?
George Lazarette
Posted 01/01/2008 - 20:15 Link
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George Lazarette wrote:
I suggest you read the instructions again.

G


Or you could read his problem again George.

When he uses the pics from his camera, not the Optio, the pics look fine on the 'frame', so it's not an issue with the frame. If he uses the card from his camera in his wife's Optio, the pics look naff on the frame, so it's not a card issue. Therefore it would seem to be a problem with either the camera, or the way the frame deals with the pics from the Optio.

As Don said, it may be that for some reason the frame is showing the a low res version of the image, perhaps from an embedded thumbnail. Or perhaps the way the image is resized for display is messing up the definition.

Try the Optio on a different sized image, ie. set it to 3Mp or something, lower than the hi-res 7Mp, and see how that looks, it might be that the pixel dimensions are more suited to the resizing than the &mp ones.

Dan
I don't have a photo-frame or an Optio, but it seems that the frame is addressing the wrong files on the card. Either the frame software is badly designed, and can't let the user select what is required, or the user can select, but needs to read the manual to find out how.

At least, that is how it seems to me. Whatever the reason, it is absurd to blame the camera.

G
Keywords: Charming, polite, and generally agreeable.
welshie47
Posted 01/01/2008 - 20:33 Link
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George Lazarette wrote:
I suggest you read the instructions again.

G


Or you could read his problem again George.

When he uses the pics from his camera, not the Optio, the pics look fine on the 'frame', so it's not an issue with the frame. If he uses the card from his camera in his wife's Optio, the pics look naff on the frame, so it's not a card issue. Therefore it would seem to be a problem with either the camera, or the way the frame deals with the pics from the Optio.

As Don said, it may be that for some reason the frame is showing the a low res version of the image, perhaps from an embedded thumbnail. Or perhaps the way the image is resized for display is messing up the definition.

Try the Optio on a different sized image, ie. set it to 3Mp or something, lower than the hi-res 7Mp, and see how that looks, it might be that the pixel dimensions are more suited to the resizing than the &mp ones.

Dan
It was a process of elimination i was going through George, i wasn`t rubbishing the camera if thats what you thought. And believe me i had read the instructions several times. The problems sorted now mate.
Thanks everone for helping..
Don
Posted 01/01/2008 - 20:38 Link
I'm gonna have to agree with George's earlier post...somwhere in iether of the two manuals, there is an answer....but we've ruled out defective card, defective frame and defective camera.
It's a compatibility/setting issue on either the camera or the photo frame.....
either the frame or the camera should have a setting you can adjust.....
trial and error and manuals are your only options....
other than keeping a card for the frame and having to transfer through the laptop every time.
Fired many shots. Didn't kill anything.
welshie47
Posted 01/01/2008 - 20:47 Link
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I'm gonna have to agree with George's earlier post...somwhere in iether of the two manuals, there is an answer....but we've ruled out defective card, defective frame and defective camera.
It's a compatibility/setting issue on either the camera or the photo frame.....
either the frame or the camera should have a setting you can adjust.....
trial and error and manuals are your only options....
other than keeping a card for the frame and having to transfer through the laptop every time.
Right mate, i`ll get reading again..
Thanks again for your help.

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