Pentax KX
Posted 06/09/2010 - 13:41
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Don wrote:
I know enough about cameras to make a good decision BEFORE I buy. Unlike some that spend foolishly then complain for ever that they didn't get what they wanted.
You call that a "point"? Maybe you should read up on logical fallacies.I know enough about cameras to make a good decision BEFORE I buy. Unlike some that spend foolishly then complain for ever that they didn't get what they wanted.
No-one here is "complaining" and "crying" as you so tactfully put it (that's sarcasm too, by the way). I am sure everyone who has noted shortcomings of the K-x researched before buying their camera. Does this make the K-x perfect? Does it make the shortcomings go away? Should they be ignored? Obviously some do not think so.
The original poster asked "I have read some very positive reports but would like some feed back on anything you have found the camera to be good or bad." Read that again, as you apparently missed it the first time. It says "good or bad".
Your sad attempt at personal insults says more about you than anyone else.
Posted 06/09/2010 - 13:46
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Another con: Although the K-x supports a wireless remote it has no socket for a wired remote control, which is quite inconvenient in situations where one wants to do a timed Bulb release.
Posted 06/09/2010 - 23:45
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Having both a K10 and a KX I have found that I actually get more "keeperd" from the KX when it comes to fast moving sports scenes.
I now use the Kx on 11 point auto focus. Just a personal preference and maybe proof that my eyes can't beat the focus accuracy of the Kx technology while still keeping up with the action. The K10 might also be as good in its "novice" focus settings but then the chance to use higher isos on the Kx means faster shutter speeds and less camera shake.
Pentax DSLRs are improving and developing. Perhaps the "cons" mentioned above will be addressed in future models. All tools have their limitations but the KX and the KM are both well able to give great pictures and so often the greatest handicap is the guy who presses the shutter.
I now use the Kx on 11 point auto focus. Just a personal preference and maybe proof that my eyes can't beat the focus accuracy of the Kx technology while still keeping up with the action. The K10 might also be as good in its "novice" focus settings but then the chance to use higher isos on the Kx means faster shutter speeds and less camera shake.
Pentax DSLRs are improving and developing. Perhaps the "cons" mentioned above will be addressed in future models. All tools have their limitations but the KX and the KM are both well able to give great pictures and so often the greatest handicap is the guy who presses the shutter.
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Posted 07/09/2010 - 08:35
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Anvh wrote:

Hi Stefan Im taking it that the pic is of the screen in live mode here and not from the veiw finder. I tried a copy of the camera yesterday and could not see anything in the veiw finder as to help to know which was the point of focus. I much prefer the system in the K10 but thats just me.flossie wrote:
YRegarding focus points - if you have to look away from the viewfinder, its too late. Anvh suggests presetting to a fixed position for portraits - um, so how do you know if that position is on the persons eye or their ear, or worse still, the wall behind them - all you know is its (e.g.) "somewhere in the top left corner, sortof"... you need an indicator in the viewfinder. As I was a complete beginner when I bought the Kx, I wasn't aware as to why I might want focus points in the viewfinder - but when I borrowed a friends D90, it was a complete revelation!
The K-X still have the brackets and with that it's quite easy to guess where the focus point is but indeed you need to know that but luckily it's no different than what Pentax always use and so for me it wasn't a problem. I just do the same thing I also did with the K10D.YRegarding focus points - if you have to look away from the viewfinder, its too late. Anvh suggests presetting to a fixed position for portraits - um, so how do you know if that position is on the persons eye or their ear, or worse still, the wall behind them - all you know is its (e.g.) "somewhere in the top left corner, sortof"... you need an indicator in the viewfinder. As I was a complete beginner when I bought the Kx, I wasn't aware as to why I might want focus points in the viewfinder - but when I borrowed a friends D90, it was a complete revelation!

Ian
Posted 07/09/2010 - 11:00
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johnriley wrote:
The thing that stops me buying K-x cameras (and the colours might be an eye-catcher shooting a wedding) are the AA batteries. Much quicker in the field to change a Li-Ion battery pack.
Inserting AA batteries while holding the camera is a pain BUT they are quick to recharge (I read that the Li-ion batteries take about 6hrs in the standard charger???) and you can even use good quality alkalines bought from the garage, in an 'emergency'. They last me quite a few days in my K200D. So lack of AA support gives me concern with the K-7, although I could get a non-OEM grip....
The thing that stops me buying K-x cameras (and the colours might be an eye-catcher shooting a wedding) are the AA batteries. Much quicker in the field to change a Li-Ion battery pack.
Posted 07/09/2010 - 12:51
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(I read that the Li-ion batteries take about 6hrs in the standard charger???)
Nowhere near that long. Our K10D/K20D batteries recharge in a couple of hours. In practice, we each have three batteries and one of them will last almost a week on holiday. On a wedding shoot one battery will last the whole event and not be anywhere near needing recharging.
(I read that the Li-ion batteries take about 6hrs in the standard charger???)
Best regards, John
Posted 07/09/2010 - 13:06
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johnriley wrote:
What John said above. Quote:
(I read that the Li-ion batteries take about 6hrs in the standard charger???)
Nowhere near that long. Our K10D/K20D batteries recharge in a couple of hours. In practice, we each have three batteries and one of them will last almost a week on holiday. On a wedding shoot one battery will last the whole event and not be anywhere near needing recharging.(I read that the Li-ion batteries take about 6hrs in the standard charger???)
Now I have two bodies, I can't remember having to change batteries during a shoot.
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Posted 07/09/2010 - 13:07
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The disposable Lithiums last around 800+ shots in my Kx, and Eneloops about half that.
Posted 07/09/2010 - 13:09
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Not saying that the K7 Battery takes a while to charge - but brought it to work this morning and it is still charging now (1pm)
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David
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Posted 07/09/2010 - 13:15
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Of course this depends on the charger as well. Chargers for AA have different rates, ranging from the "speed chargers" to trickle chargers that condition the batteries as they work. You get a lot more life from them that way.
For regular use I have a Maha charger ("Powerex") and even then never worry about how long batteries are taking. This is more to do with having enough sets on hand than anything else. if all your sets are depleted and you are waiting for one to recharge it always seems like forever!
On a trip, for use in a hotel room, I would bring along something more compact. but still there is rarely a need to charge more than one set over-night, which is more than enough time.
For regular use I have a Maha charger ("Powerex") and even then never worry about how long batteries are taking. This is more to do with having enough sets on hand than anything else. if all your sets are depleted and you are waiting for one to recharge it always seems like forever!
On a trip, for use in a hotel room, I would bring along something more compact. but still there is rarely a need to charge more than one set over-night, which is more than enough time.
Posted 07/09/2010 - 13:31
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johnriley wrote:
That sounds more like it.Quote:
(I read that the Li-ion batteries take about 6hrs in the standard charger???)
Nowhere near that long. Our K10D/K20D batteries recharge in a couple of hours. (I read that the Li-ion batteries take about 6hrs in the standard charger???)
Mayday's comment makes me nervous. I guess the answer is keep a spare battery charged! trouble is being organised is not my strong point.
Posted 07/09/2010 - 14:17
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philstaff wrote:
Ian
Ian this is the viewfinder and indeed you don't see the greyish square and you don't see which focus point is selected in the viewfinder and I didn't said that Anvh wrote:
The K-X still have the brackets and with that it's quite easy to guess where the focus point is but indeed you need to know that but luckily it's no different than what Pentax always use and so for me it wasn't a problem. I just do the same thing I also did with the K10D.

Hi Stefan Im taking it that the pic is of the screen in live mode here and not from the veiw finder. I tried a copy of the camera yesterday and could not see anything in the veiw finder as to help to know which was the point of focus. I much prefer the system in the K10 but thats just me.The K-X still have the brackets and with that it's quite easy to guess where the focus point is but indeed you need to know that but luckily it's no different than what Pentax always use and so for me it wasn't a problem. I just do the same thing I also did with the K10D.

Ian
I said: "The K-X still have the brackets and with that it's quite easy to guess where the focus point is"
As you can see the brackets suround the focus point so if you select a focus point on you can see on the LCD screen which point is selected and you can then easily guess where the focus point is in the viewfinder because of the brackets.
Flossie said you had no way of knowing where the focus point are but because of the brackets that isn't true.
Posted 07/09/2010 - 18:29
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Thanks for clarifying this poin Stefan Im going to have to think this one through. If the system was the same as the k10 however I would defenetly go for a KX as this is a lot of camera for the price ticket in my opinion.
Ian
Ian
Posted 07/09/2010 - 18:43
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Good luck Ian thinking this one out.
It depends on your shooting style if the AF indication is a big miss or not.
I believe with the K10D you can set the AF indication off so you can try it out how it would be.
It depends on your shooting style if the AF indication is a big miss or not.
I believe with the K10D you can set the AF indication off so you can try it out how it would be.
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YRegarding focus points - if you have to look away from the viewfinder, its too late. Anvh suggests presetting to a fixed position for portraits - um, so how do you know if that position is on the persons eye or their ear, or worse still, the wall behind them - all you know is its (e.g.) "somewhere in the top left corner, sortof"... you need an indicator in the viewfinder. As I was a complete beginner when I bought the Kx, I wasn't aware as to why I might want focus points in the viewfinder - but when I borrowed a friends D90, it was a complete revelation!
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