Pentax K1 ii vs Sony a7iii?

This made me laugh a lot

I have wondered, if I had the money to spend on a FF camera, if I'd go for the K-1 or the A7iii and honestly I don't know. It's a moot point as I'm not prepared to spend that much cash on a camera, but I like to keep abreast of where the technology and market are, and where they're heading.

Sony has the advantage in size and that I could almost adapt every lens I own to it but in practice they're mostly K or M42 mount, only my SR mount lenses would lose out if I were to go for the K-1.

I would love to have eye-AF - all reports ( and my own opinion) indicate it's far from being a gimmick and very rarely fails.

I think the deal-breakers for me would be the reportedly poor build quality of the Sony (compared to the K-1) and that the Sony lenses are really, really expensive, even more so than Canons and Nikons. A simple 55mm f/1.8 costs £699!! It might be good but I don't see how that price can be justified.

If Pentax were to start doing Sony EVF clones then they wouldn't be on my shopping list. I did get a K-01 to try which would be similar but TBH, that wasn't really for me.

As for iPhones... yuck.

I was a pentax DSLR user for many years, primarily because I felt the features (like pentaprism, WR, extensive bracketing) and build of the APS-C models were significantly better value than other brands. However the turning point for me was the release of the K1 mkii. IMO Riochs innovation and time to market certainly for APS-C now has been impacted too much by the K1ii and it is losing ground to other manufactures, for instance It doesn't have an equvalient APS-C to the D500 and may be some time before it does. I'd been waiting for an updated K3ii with features like tilting touchscreen, better af, better wifi capability, i did not think the KP was enough of an upgrade, and also lost features I liked like the top LCD. So the time to market for a new APS-C model was certainly a factor in me switching brands, coupled with the lack of cheaper third party lens support, for more budget friendly lenses (can't afford a 150-450 even used, but got a nikon mount Sigma 150-600 used at a very reasonable price). There are certainly pentax feature I miss like build and ergonomics to some extent, but with no new APS-C model on the horizon I can't see me being tempted back unless I win the lottery and can suddenly afford to go full frame. Feels somewhat ironic after years of reading posts about people switching brands to be able to go full frame

I'm truly curious why your APS-C camera stopped doing what you wanted because a new full frame camera came out. Can you enlighten us? If you were perfectly happy with it the day previous, what changed?

Sony A7's are UGLY!

I remember the old Pentax add "Just Hold a Pentax" .........
Been holding one ever since

I can't stand ugly products

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I don't think they are ugly. But they are pinched and fiddly compared to a DSLR. The K1 is about as small as I would like... but I think I preferred the K10D I had for a while. It's funny, I really *thought* I wanted a small camera, and I had the K7; but having the K10D for a while was a revelation.

When the K3 series came out, Nikon users were saying pretty much the same things; they wanted Nikon to stop neglecting their high end APSC line up. The D500 is Nikon's answer, but it took a while. You should be happy in Nikon's system, but if you are constantly looking at the competition, in time you'll find frustrations there too. Not having IBIS is a big one obviously.

It didn't stop doing anything, as is always the case on a budget it was the best compromise at the time I bought it. Then when I had money to upgrade and thought of the features I would like (Better AF Tracking, tilting touchscreen, wifi, cheap long lens) there was no Pentax body that had them all, the reason the K1ii made a difference was that I felt FF was now riochs primary focus and for APS-C i'd be better served by other manufacturers. I not sure anyones perfectly happy and I'm not saying my new camera is perfect but its enabled me to get more keepers of my son when hes not stood still, and I've got a 600mm lens without needing a remorgage.

Thanks for that, but it begs the question, how on earth did we all get on in the pre digital days when even an exposure meter was a luxury? Guess you just like the latest must have gadgets as any recent Pentax camera is capable of outperforming much of the competition with regards to ultimate picture quality. I agree when it comes to features Pentax may be behind in some areas (but conversely ahead in others.)
Budget 600mm? That's far from being an everyday carry round lens but even in K mount they're around: https://www.pentaxforums.com/userreviews/sigma-600mm-f8-mirror.html

LUXURY!

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I agree I do like to have the latest gadget, and for image quality my K3ii was more than sufficient, I have many shots of my son posing that would be no better on any brand (possibly better if the person behind had more skill). In the last few weeks though I have got shots of him on a his bike, park swings, and running through fields that I know from plenty of experience with the K3ii would have been much more hit and miss. With the K3 you could pre focus on swing and then let off a burst as he was passing that point, but more often than not he would have his eyes shut or not be looking etc, with a burst of tracked images Im getting a higher hit rate and therefore more likely to get the expression too.

I still reckon you'd be hard pushed to get a modern fast AF 600mm zoom for pentax for a comparable price I got the 150-600 C for, I've seen the 150-500 in pentax mount go for more than I paid, and its not as highly rated, and can't be fine tuned by a dock (not that I've tried that yet)

As I have loads of legacy glass, the K-1 would have been my choice - at least that was the plan before I used the cash to buy a P6x7...

Have they fixed the light leaks around the lens mount yet (link)?

It would have been a luxury for me when I started whilst still at school. All I had was a JOHNSON-PHOTOGRAPHIC-YEAR-BOOK. To use it you looked up the Month then time of day, then whether it was Sunny, Cloudy Bright etc. Then used a dial calculator to work out the exposure See last photo in this ebay listing

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/JOHNSON-PHOTOGRAPHIC-YEAR-BOOK-1956/192530379617?hash...

Camerwise was OK I had a Voigtlander-Bessa-II-RF-6x9

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Voigtlander-Bessa-II-RF-6x9-camera-Color-Heliar-lens/...


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And then you had to go and clean't bottom of't lake wi't tongue, eh?