Pentax Flu help - alternative apps?


cardiffgareth

Link Posted 28/12/2017 - 19:53
Being rekindling my use of the Pentax Flucard and connected it up to my new iPad. The 'official' website remote shoot and image viewer for the Pentax flucard is ok to view the images here at home but you cannot view an image full screen and if you click on it to try, the image displays massive full size and you can't scroll, so all you can see if a part of the image which isn't great.

I did take a look at Flucard apps in the app store by Track2000 who make the Flucards.

I have downloaded their app: Flucard shoot and view Pro' that is able to communicate with the Pentax flucard and I can see the images full screen (ish) but on the side of the screen are slideshow, backward and forward buttons that do not work and you cannot hide them either and they a) look terrible and b) vignette into the image so partially block the image.

They also have a 'Flucard download app' which allows you to download the images to your iPad manually one by one or all together and then once in a local iPad album, start an album but again this isn't ideal as I'd have to do this at the end of the shoot and it isn't then live.

What I would like to do is have images display full screen automatically once transferred over to the ipad that update on screen as I keep shooting, so if I am doing a photoshoot customers can hold the iPad and view the images as I shoot them full screen on the iPad.

Does anyone know of any apps which are compatible with the Pentax flucard at allow this?
Gareth
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SteveLedger

Link Posted 28/12/2017 - 20:12
I don't have an answer to your main question, but I have a question of my own

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so if I am doing a photoshoot customers can hold the iPad and view the images as I shoot them full screen on the iPad.

Why is this a good/useful modus operandi ?
It would be like someone watching you over your shoulder, they'd witness your misses and goofs - all of which are traditionally filtered out before a client sees any photos.
And you've not had a chance to process any RAW so won't be showing them at their best.
I doesn't seem professional in my mind.
Last Edited by SteveLedger on 28/12/2017 - 20:14

cardiffgareth

Link Posted 28/12/2017 - 21:12
I have nothing to hide and will chimp images on the camera during a shoot for customers to view. I'm upfront with them and let them know there'll be images that are out of focus or a poor pose as you can't guarantee amazing images everyone, for instance young kids don't sit still for long! They're cool with that and it shows transparency
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SteveLedger

Link Posted 28/12/2017 - 21:46
Thanks Gareth,
A surprising answer. Has something happened in the past that caused you to adopt this method of working with a client?

cardiffgareth

Link Posted 28/12/2017 - 22:53
No, nothing has happened, I've always done it! I have said in the past to customers that photographers as a rule normally bin all the junk images before the customer gets to see them as it makes them look like 'the amazing pro' with a bunch of great images with nothing bad about them but I'm happy for customers to see them all and I bin 'on camera' the junk ones with the customer there to dwindle them down to just the good ones. I think it's a good way to work as we're then all on the same page, shows we're all human with no egos and if the images are not looking right then they can then jump on board and help come up with solutions, for example kids looking the right way etc
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gtis

Link Posted 28/12/2017 - 22:55
Hi Gareth
I donít think it can be done with a Pentax flucard the only thing I can think of is pk tether
Or a field monitor connected with a hdmi cable
But that will not be wireless hope that helps
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Last Edited by gtis on 28/12/2017 - 22:57

SteveLedger

Link Posted 28/12/2017 - 23:37
Thanks again Gareth,

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I have said in the past to customers that photographers as a rule normally bin all the junk images before the customer gets to see them as it makes them look like 'the amazing pro' with a bunch of great images with nothing bad about them

This is the way it should be in my mind and isn't a particularly fair thing to say to a client.
So I'm not on the same page as you with this one as it could be interpreted as if you are implying that those 'pros' who do not show the client their junk images as well are somehow being dishonest and that you are more honest than them.

I've never heard of a pro taking this position before (which only means I've never heard of it), but I have read and heard many times about pros who have been asked to hand over all shot & unedited photos for the client that have reacted in the same way = Not a Chance!
Of course I fully support your right to do as you please, so I've only offered my pov in the spirit of free speech and personal opinion.

Here's an article by a wedding 'tog who has something to say about this.
https://petapixel.com/2014/10/27/let-wedding-photographers-do-their-jobs-or-why-...

Cheers and Happy New Year

layingback

Link Posted 29/12/2017 - 09:08
Gareth, To the original problem - but this is all speculation as I don't have _any_ of the gear that you have - 2 thoughts.

Does the K3ii still have the 2M jpeg option? Assuming you're shooting RAW + Jpeg, you could dedicate the jpeg to client viewing, and make it small enough so that when you do click on the 'official website remote shoot and image viewer' jpeg image, the full size image is still within what your iPad will display full screen. Avoiding the scrolling - lack of - issue. Which exact size depends on which iPad you have of course.

Or.

Does your iPad handle 2 apps at once, like Android 8 or Samsung Android tablets do? If so is it possible to use one of the flu card apps just to retrieve the image files, but then use a more flexible iPad specific image viewer to actually display the images to the clients?

Any further ideas you know where to find me
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cardiffgareth

Link Posted 29/12/2017 - 09:11
I think I it's horses for courses as I get why some don't want to but if I exposure and light placement is spot on in the studio then I have nothing to fear with customers viewing the images shot live as they're being taken. It also shows that all photographers are human and not every image will be perfect. I'll have a read of your link now but if someone said to me can they have the raw images 'as is' and they'd process them, I'd say happy days!

Neil, I've used PkTether before and it's pretty good, especially as you can transfer the Raw files directly into a desktop folder and then have Lightroom auto import the images from there. Quite handy that and I once did a charity shoot where I did just that. Customers were mesmerised about how quick an image could be edited such as cropping, de-clarity and spot removal! For what I have planned though, if I'm shooting in a customers house then I don't want to be bringing a laptop and have to fiddle with cables etc so wanted something that looks cleaner.
Gareth
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cardiffgareth

Link Posted 29/12/2017 - 09:28
layingback wrote:
Gareth, To the original problem - but this is all speculation as I don't have _any_ of the gear that you have - 2 thoughts.

Does the K3ii still have the 2M jpeg option? Assuming you're shooting RAW + Jpeg, you could dedicate the jpeg to client viewing, and make it small enough so that when you do click on the 'official website remote shoot and image viewer' jpeg image, the full size image is still within what your iPad will display full screen. Avoiding the scrolling - lack of - issue. Which exact size depends on which iPad you have of course.

Or.

Does your iPad handle 2 apps at once, like Android 8 or Samsung Android tablets do? If so is it possible to use one of the flu card apps just to retrieve the image files, but then use a more flexible iPad specific image viewer to actually display the images to the clients?

Any further ideas you know where to find me

Hey there Mark
I changed the JPEG output on card slot 2 to S to see if that made a difference but it didn't. I see there is a XS option so will try that.

I seems the software is halfway there, it just needs a little tweak!
Gareth
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