Pentax FF DSLR - confirmed
Posted 10/10/2012 - 15:56
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fritzthedog wrote:
Hopefully it will now stop all of the boring "why haven't we got FF - I am jumping ship" threads
I think it's going to worry a lot of FF whiners at the other forum. Now they are going to have to actually buy one!!!
Hopefully it will now stop all of the boring "why haven't we got FF - I am jumping ship" threads
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Posted 10/10/2012 - 16:06
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Smeggypants wrote:
I think it's going to worry a lot of FF whiners at the other forum. Now they are going to have to actually buy one!!!
It'll take me a fair while to stump the cash... But I'll make it happen... Question will be:I think it's going to worry a lot of FF whiners at the other forum. Now they are going to have to actually buy one!!!
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Posted 10/10/2012 - 16:29
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K10D wrote:
Why would any Pentax user possibly want to use a Ltd lens on a camera format that it was actually designed to be used with?
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There was no suggestion from me that anybody was boring for wanting new/ improved/ innovative products and or developments - my point was quite specifically that the meaningless "why haven't Pentax given me FF - I am jumping ship" threads had become somewhat tedious of late. For the record - like Smeggy - I would love better AF but I am not going to start a thread threatening to jump ship if I don't get it - should it arrive I will probably start a thread praising it - guess I am just a glass half full sort of guy.
fritzthedog wrote:
Hopefully it will now stop all of the boring "why haven't we got FF - I am jumping ship" threads
Carl
Absolutely agree, the people wanting a FF from Pentax are boring. Even those wanting faster AF are boring.Hopefully it will now stop all of the boring "why haven't we got FF - I am jumping ship" threads
Carl
Why would any Pentax user possibly want to use a Ltd lens on a camera format that it was actually designed to be used with?
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No matter how many lenses I have owned - I have always needed just one more
Posted 10/10/2012 - 16:36
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I wonder who will actually buy a FF Pentax DSLR. I doubt if many professionals will unless Pentax can organise a full professional backup service with fast servicing, lens hire etc.
That leaves the enthusiastic amateurs. With recent advances in sensor technology the improvement in image quality is going to be fairly small although there are undeniable advantages if using narrow depth of focus is important. FF lenses tend to be bigger and heavier as well as more expensive.
Recent trends point to a desire for smaller lighter cameras, hence the increasing popularity of small system mirror-less cameras. I think Pentax might struggle to achieve the sales volumes necessary to keep unit costs down sufficiently to compete with the big boys at Canikon.
That leaves the enthusiastic amateurs. With recent advances in sensor technology the improvement in image quality is going to be fairly small although there are undeniable advantages if using narrow depth of focus is important. FF lenses tend to be bigger and heavier as well as more expensive.
Recent trends point to a desire for smaller lighter cameras, hence the increasing popularity of small system mirror-less cameras. I think Pentax might struggle to achieve the sales volumes necessary to keep unit costs down sufficiently to compete with the big boys at Canikon.
Archie
Posted 10/10/2012 - 16:51
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I suspect it will spec out very similar to the new nikon d600 but with weather sealing and possibly a software/hardware hybrid IS system... for a similar price.
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Posted 10/10/2012 - 17:13
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So do I, it will have to compete against the D600. Or against the D600's replacement by the time it comes out.
Posted 10/10/2012 - 17:20
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helios wrote:
I wonder who will actually buy a FF Pentax DSLR. I doubt if many professionals will unless Pentax can organise a full professional backup service with fast servicing, lens hire etc.
That leaves the enthusiastic amateurs. With recent advances in sensor technology the improvement in image quality is going to be fairly small although there are undeniable advantages if using narrow depth of focus is important. FF lenses tend to be bigger and heavier as well as more expensive.
Recent trends point to a desire for smaller lighter cameras, hence the increasing popularity of small system mirror-less cameras. I think Pentax might struggle to achieve the sales volumes necessary to keep unit costs down sufficiently to compete with the big boys at Canikon.
I will be buying one and my new k-5 mkiis will be my second body with my current k-5 as backup.I wonder who will actually buy a FF Pentax DSLR. I doubt if many professionals will unless Pentax can organise a full professional backup service with fast servicing, lens hire etc.
That leaves the enthusiastic amateurs. With recent advances in sensor technology the improvement in image quality is going to be fairly small although there are undeniable advantages if using narrow depth of focus is important. FF lenses tend to be bigger and heavier as well as more expensive.
Recent trends point to a desire for smaller lighter cameras, hence the increasing popularity of small system mirror-less cameras. I think Pentax might struggle to achieve the sales volumes necessary to keep unit costs down sufficiently to compete with the big boys at Canikon.
Nikon service has recently been shocking by all accounts with turnarounds longer than two weeks. I think once Pentax launch full frame they will have to improve their pro service..
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Posted 10/10/2012 - 17:34
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I would buy one too (subject to funds). I would need a wide zoom for landscape but apart from that all my favourite lenses are full frame, so would serve a dual purpose with the K5 crop factor.
Posted 10/10/2012 - 18:32
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Gwyn wrote:
[quote:3496ace15f="timothyw"]Or start new even more boring threads about how expensive it is and how they will wait until it falls to £300 before they will buy one .
I'm waiting until it's under £100 and they release a magic firmware upgrade that makes all my lenses FF. [quote:3496ace15f="timothyw"]Or start new even more boring threads about how expensive it is and how they will wait until it falls to £300 before they will buy one .
(Since 'any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic', obviously this just requires a sufficient advance in technology to come about.)
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Posted 10/10/2012 - 18:51
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Before they release own FF Nikon and Canon wil have another model on the market, Pentax shouldn't compete with D600, rather with next one Nikon will release , but if you read this interview, this guy do realize they have to have something different/special
Also FF without good set of FF lenses, not going to be a big success.
Also FF without good set of FF lenses, not going to be a big success.
Posted 10/10/2012 - 19:08
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fritzthedog wrote:
More importantly - can I just register my immediate interest for all of those wonderful lenses you own that will no longer suite you.
I am anticipating there will be such a deluge of them available that you will all want to virtually give them to me for nothing or indeed swap them with me for the stash of old FF lenses I have been saving for this momentous occasion
Carl
I realise this was tongue-in-cheek but I would hope Pentax have a similar mechanism to the other marques that automatically senses when a cropped-lens is added and changes the file size.More importantly - can I just register my immediate interest for all of those wonderful lenses you own that will no longer suite you.
I am anticipating there will be such a deluge of them available that you will all want to virtually give them to me for nothing or indeed swap them with me for the stash of old FF lenses I have been saving for this momentous occasion
Carl
But it may actually increase the price of older lenses. After all many may realise that they can use old manual lenses to their full potential again!
Posted 10/10/2012 - 19:09
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I realise this was tongue-in-cheek but I would hope Pentax have a similar mechanism to the other marques that automatically senses when a cropped-lens is added and changes the file size.
But it may actually increase the price of older lenses. After all many may realise that they can use old manual lenses to their full potential again!
Well it would be logical given Pentax's commitment to backward compatibility.
I realise this was tongue-in-cheek but I would hope Pentax have a similar mechanism to the other marques that automatically senses when a cropped-lens is added and changes the file size.
But it may actually increase the price of older lenses. After all many may realise that they can use old manual lenses to their full potential again!
Posted 10/10/2012 - 19:15
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This has been such an enjoyable thread to read, so much positive thinking
Ken
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“We must avoid however, snapping away, shooting quickly and without thought, overloading ourselves with unnecessary images that clutter our memory and diminish the clarity of the whole.” - Henri Cartier-Bresson -
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Hopefully it will now stop all of the boring "why haven't we got FF - I am jumping ship" threads
Carl
Why would any Pentax user possibly want to use a Ltd lens on a camera format that it was actually designed to be used with?
Best regards
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