P30T Lenses
Posted 28/02/2010 - 19:28
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If you want to use Program mode you'll need A series lenses, if you are happy to use manual/aperture priority you can use "K" and M series lenses too. "A" series lenses are usually more expensive than the earlier M and K series. Autofocus F and FA lenses can be used too, manually, but you are paying a premium for the AF but it does mean you could use them on your dSLR too (I think you said you had one?)
Personally, I would go for the trio of 28mm, 50mm and 135mm primes. There are various zooms available of differing quality. I rather like my M series 28-50mm and 40-80mm for example. Of the 135mm offerings the M series f/3.5 is plentiful, cheap, small and light. The K series f/2.5 is heavier but better IQ. With 28mm lenses the f/3.5 lenses are reputed to be sharper than the more common f/2.8 but are obviously slower. For 50mm you cannot go wrong with the f/1.7. The f/1.4 is faster, but more expensive, the f/2 cheap but still sharp.
HTH. K.
Personally, I would go for the trio of 28mm, 50mm and 135mm primes. There are various zooms available of differing quality. I rather like my M series 28-50mm and 40-80mm for example. Of the 135mm offerings the M series f/3.5 is plentiful, cheap, small and light. The K series f/2.5 is heavier but better IQ. With 28mm lenses the f/3.5 lenses are reputed to be sharper than the more common f/2.8 but are obviously slower. For 50mm you cannot go wrong with the f/1.7. The f/1.4 is faster, but more expensive, the f/2 cheap but still sharp.
HTH. K.
Kris Lockyear
It is an illusion that photos are made with the camera… they are made with the eye, heart and head. Henri Cartier-Bresson
Lots of film bodies, a couple of digital ones, too many lenses (mainly older glass) and a Horseman LE 5x4.
It is an illusion that photos are made with the camera… they are made with the eye, heart and head. Henri Cartier-Bresson
Lots of film bodies, a couple of digital ones, too many lenses (mainly older glass) and a Horseman LE 5x4.
Posted 28/02/2010 - 19:32
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Thanks for replying Kris i actually prefer the manual focus lenses more hands on so i could use my lenses i have for my Samsung GX-10 and also M series :
Emma
"Photography is a way of feeling, of touching, of loving. What you have caught on film is captured forever... it remembers little things, long after you have forgotten everything." Aaron Siskind
Bodies K20D, LTL 3, K1000d
Lenses Pentax 50mm, Pentax 135mm, Tamron 70-300 macro
"Photography is a way of feeling, of touching, of loving. What you have caught on film is captured forever... it remembers little things, long after you have forgotten everything." Aaron Siskind
Bodies K20D, LTL 3, K1000d
Lenses Pentax 50mm, Pentax 135mm, Tamron 70-300 macro
Posted 28/02/2010 - 19:41
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You can use all Pentax lenses on your GX10. You just need to set the menu item "allow use of aperture ring" to on for M and K series lenses. "A" series lenses you can set the aperture ring to A and use the camera body to set the aperture.
The only problem is that the metering on the K10 (and I assume the GX10) is a bit whacky with the older lenses and so you need to check the histogram and reshoot if necessary. OK for static subjects, obviously!
K.
The only problem is that the metering on the K10 (and I assume the GX10) is a bit whacky with the older lenses and so you need to check the histogram and reshoot if necessary. OK for static subjects, obviously!
K.
Kris Lockyear
It is an illusion that photos are made with the camera… they are made with the eye, heart and head. Henri Cartier-Bresson
Lots of film bodies, a couple of digital ones, too many lenses (mainly older glass) and a Horseman LE 5x4.
It is an illusion that photos are made with the camera… they are made with the eye, heart and head. Henri Cartier-Bresson
Lots of film bodies, a couple of digital ones, too many lenses (mainly older glass) and a Horseman LE 5x4.
Posted 28/02/2010 - 19:58
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ems82 wrote:
Hello what lenses do i need for my newly purchased P30T
I would use a Pentax-A 50mm as a standard lens. The Tamron 70-300mm that you have already will be good for telephoto.Hello what lenses do i need for my newly purchased P30T
Your 18-55 lens is designed for digital only (has a smaller image circle than full frame lenses), but I think it might be ok for film also if you avoid the first few milimeters at the wide end. So you could give that a go for wide angle. A Pentax-A 28mm might be better, though.
~Pete
Posted 28/02/2010 - 20:02
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ems82.
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Posted 28/02/2010 - 20:02
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ps. Don't forget that focal lengths have to be divided by 1.5 to give the same view on film that you get on digital. So 50mm on film is like 75mm on digital.
~Pete
Posted 28/02/2010 - 20:47
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Isn't that back-to-front, 'Iceblinker'?
50mm, a standard lens on film is like ~34mm on digital.
So the 18-55 K10D/GX10 kit lens gives the same Field of View (FOV) as a 27-82.5mm on film.
Emma, the 50 & 135 lenses you have already sound ideal.
I have already tried what Pete/Iceblinker suggested, putting the 18-55 digital lens on my recently acquired MZ6 film body and was pleasantly surprised that the image it casts fills the viewfinder. Below about 20mm there is some darkening in the corners.
I am not familiar with the P30T, but it would need to be able to set the lens aperture from the camera body to work with the kit lens (or any other without aperture ring).
Good luck with the 'new' camera.
Peter
50mm, a standard lens on film is like ~34mm on digital.
So the 18-55 K10D/GX10 kit lens gives the same Field of View (FOV) as a 27-82.5mm on film.
Emma, the 50 & 135 lenses you have already sound ideal.
I have already tried what Pete/Iceblinker suggested, putting the 18-55 digital lens on my recently acquired MZ6 film body and was pleasantly surprised that the image it casts fills the viewfinder. Below about 20mm there is some darkening in the corners.
I am not familiar with the P30T, but it would need to be able to set the lens aperture from the camera body to work with the kit lens (or any other without aperture ring).
Good luck with the 'new' camera.
Peter
Peter
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Tamron 80-210mm & 28mm
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Pentax DA 18-55 Mk1, 50-200 (Samsung), 16-45, 55-300 Mk1, 35 f/2.4
Pentax MZ6 + FA28-90, FA50 f/1.4, M 50 f/1.7
Tamron 80-210mm & 28mm
Posted 28/02/2010 - 20:55
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OK thanks cant wait to get my grubby hands on it and go and experiemnet
Emma
"Photography is a way of feeling, of touching, of loving. What you have caught on film is captured forever... it remembers little things, long after you have forgotten everything." Aaron Siskind
Bodies K20D, LTL 3, K1000d
Lenses Pentax 50mm, Pentax 135mm, Tamron 70-300 macro
"Photography is a way of feeling, of touching, of loving. What you have caught on film is captured forever... it remembers little things, long after you have forgotten everything." Aaron Siskind
Bodies K20D, LTL 3, K1000d
Lenses Pentax 50mm, Pentax 135mm, Tamron 70-300 macro
Posted 28/02/2010 - 20:56
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Yes, sorry I got it the wrong way round above.
The P30T's Program mode should work lenses without an aperture ring. I'm not sure about its Av mode. I only had a P30 (not T or n) that didn't have Av mode at all.
The P30T's Program mode should work lenses without an aperture ring. I'm not sure about its Av mode. I only had a P30 (not T or n) that didn't have Av mode at all.
~Pete
Posted 28/02/2010 - 22:47
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I keep saying this, try your standard 18-55 to get going.
Yes it is a digital lens but highly use-able above 20mm(ish).see this thread.
Any vignetting can be seen in the view finder.
I seem to recall the 'standard' lens for the P30T is this one.
Yes it is a digital lens but highly use-able above 20mm(ish).see this thread.
Any vignetting can be seen in the view finder.
I seem to recall the 'standard' lens for the P30T is this one.
Cheers, HG
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Posted 28/02/2010 - 23:11
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The 28mm f3.5 is definitely sharper than the f2.8 in my experience, well worth seeking out.
Do not buy the non-SMC Pentax-A 28-80mm (this one), it's terrible and you're better off putting the money to something better like an M or A series prime. To be honest I'd probably use the P30T in aperture priority anyway as it doesn't display the aperture in Program mode so you've no idea what it's doing. Depth of field is much simpler with these old lenses as you have a scale on the lens to help you decide what aperture to use.
The old Pentax-M 40-80mm is a decent lens and often seems to go fairly cheap - an influential forum and review site gives it an unjustified poor reputation, my example has proved to be commendably sharp. You can see a sample image taken using the Macro/close up function of the lens here.
Do not buy the non-SMC Pentax-A 28-80mm (this one), it's terrible and you're better off putting the money to something better like an M or A series prime. To be honest I'd probably use the P30T in aperture priority anyway as it doesn't display the aperture in Program mode so you've no idea what it's doing. Depth of field is much simpler with these old lenses as you have a scale on the lens to help you decide what aperture to use.
The old Pentax-M 40-80mm is a decent lens and often seems to go fairly cheap - an influential forum and review site gives it an unjustified poor reputation, my example has proved to be commendably sharp. You can see a sample image taken using the Macro/close up function of the lens here.
Matt
Shooting the Welsh Wilderness with K-m, KX, MX, ME Super and assorted lenses.
Shooting the Welsh Wilderness with K-m, KX, MX, ME Super and assorted lenses.
Posted 28/02/2010 - 23:16
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I have some nice macros of a wild orchid taken with the 40-80mm using an LX and Kodachrome 64 and they seem pretty sharp. I haven't scanned them yet.
K.
K.
Kris Lockyear
It is an illusion that photos are made with the camera… they are made with the eye, heart and head. Henri Cartier-Bresson
Lots of film bodies, a couple of digital ones, too many lenses (mainly older glass) and a Horseman LE 5x4.
It is an illusion that photos are made with the camera… they are made with the eye, heart and head. Henri Cartier-Bresson
Lots of film bodies, a couple of digital ones, too many lenses (mainly older glass) and a Horseman LE 5x4.
Posted 28/02/2010 - 23:26
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iceblinker wrote:
Yes, sorry I got it the wrong way round above.
The P30T's Program mode should work lenses without an aperture ring. I'm not sure about its Av mode. I only had a P30 (not T or n) that didn't have Av mode at all.
Nope, you were right the first time!Yes, sorry I got it the wrong way round above.
The P30T's Program mode should work lenses without an aperture ring. I'm not sure about its Av mode. I only had a P30 (not T or n) that didn't have Av mode at all.
Thanks to the crop factor caused by the DSLR using an APS-C sized sensor a 50mm lens on a DSLR is equivalent to a 75mm lens on a film SLR. This is why wide angle primes are now very sought-after.
As for the P30T modes:
With the lens set to A the camera is in Program mode (turning the shutter dial does nothing).
With the lens set to an aperture and the shutter dial set to A, the camera is in Av mode.
With the lens set to an aperture and the shutter dial set to a speed, the camera is in M mode.
Matt
Shooting the Welsh Wilderness with K-m, KX, MX, ME Super and assorted lenses.
Shooting the Welsh Wilderness with K-m, KX, MX, ME Super and assorted lenses.
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