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Posted 07/05/2010 - 16:24
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robbie_d wrote:
Pompeii?
Pompeii has some very wide 'roads' (they'd be a bit bumpy due to all the open sewers though!)
Pompeii?
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Posted 07/05/2010 - 16:43
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thoughton wrote:
We're back to the matter of definition of "roads"!
robbie_d wrote:
Pompeii?
Pompeii has some very wide 'roads' (they'd be a bit bumpy due to all the open sewers though!)Pompeii?
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Posted 07/05/2010 - 16:44
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Also, what is the definition of "European"?
Play in European World Cup Qualifying Groups?
Enter the Eurovision Song Contest?
Play in European World Cup Qualifying Groups?
Enter the Eurovision Song Contest?
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Posted 07/05/2010 - 19:47
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robbie_d wrote:
(how the hell they get cars somewhere without roads is beyond me though).
Ask a Landrover driver
(how the hell they get cars somewhere without roads is beyond me though).
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Posted 07/05/2010 - 21:39
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My youngest son, his partner and her parents go greenroading in the Uk.
They go in a mk 1 Range Rover and a couple of old Landrovers.
Son and partener use the Range Rover as their normal vehicle - thankfully it runs on LPG.
Middle son used one of the old Landrovers as his wedding car.
[IMG]http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c205/Bargwynbu/PandA%20wedding/IMG_2616small.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c205/Bargwynbu/PandA%20wedding/IMG_2655small.jpg[/IMG]
Notice it still has it's British number plate on it as well as teh Dutch one!
They go in a mk 1 Range Rover and a couple of old Landrovers.
Son and partener use the Range Rover as their normal vehicle - thankfully it runs on LPG.
Middle son used one of the old Landrovers as his wedding car.
[IMG]http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c205/Bargwynbu/PandA%20wedding/IMG_2616small.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c205/Bargwynbu/PandA%20wedding/IMG_2655small.jpg[/IMG]
Notice it still has it's British number plate on it as well as teh Dutch one!
Posted 07/05/2010 - 22:01
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Sorry yes I meant greenlaning.
As far as I know they are not on any other site - if they are then they have been pinched.
As far as I know they are not on any other site - if they are then they have been pinched.
Posted 07/05/2010 - 22:33
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cardiff_gareth wrote:
Its best with a LandRover 90 Defender or Discovery. Either one as the Defender 90 has a 90 inch wheelbase and the Discovery has a 100 inch wheel base. Both Landies have permenant 4 wheel drive and run on a set of axles and therefore it allows axle articulation that can keep wheels on the ground when the terrain gets very uneven, Add to that a transfer box that seriously slows the gearbox down and makes the landie crawl along. The main purpose of the transfer box though is to limit power to wheel that have no grip (i.e. in the air) and to transfer the power then to wheel that have traction and are in contact with the ground.
To aid the Land Rover design many owners also increase its 'get anywhere' design by:
Using a lift kit to raise the body further off the ground
Use dislocation cones and very fancy suspension to give extreme axle articulation. The dislocation cones mean tha when the spring comes out of the bottom recess, when it comes back into the recess the cone locates it back in place correctly
Use a snorkel to aid the wading depth capabilies
Use extended axle, engine and gearbox breathes (normally ran into snorkel)
When the suspension is lifted then larger tyres are also added to lift the lande further into the air
If you click here and scroll to the bottom you'll see some extreme axle articulation
Hope this helps
All good info, but I've never really counted Land Rovers as cars... Father Ted wrote:
Ok, you ready for this !robbie_d wrote:
(how the hell they get cars somewhere without roads is beyond me though).
Ask a Landrover driver (how the hell they get cars somewhere without roads is beyond me though).
Its best with a LandRover 90 Defender or Discovery. Either one as the Defender 90 has a 90 inch wheelbase and the Discovery has a 100 inch wheel base. Both Landies have permenant 4 wheel drive and run on a set of axles and therefore it allows axle articulation that can keep wheels on the ground when the terrain gets very uneven, Add to that a transfer box that seriously slows the gearbox down and makes the landie crawl along. The main purpose of the transfer box though is to limit power to wheel that have no grip (i.e. in the air) and to transfer the power then to wheel that have traction and are in contact with the ground.
To aid the Land Rover design many owners also increase its 'get anywhere' design by:
Using a lift kit to raise the body further off the ground
Use dislocation cones and very fancy suspension to give extreme axle articulation. The dislocation cones mean tha when the spring comes out of the bottom recess, when it comes back into the recess the cone locates it back in place correctly
Use a snorkel to aid the wading depth capabilies
Use extended axle, engine and gearbox breathes (normally ran into snorkel)
When the suspension is lifted then larger tyres are also added to lift the lande further into the air
If you click here and scroll to the bottom you'll see some extreme axle articulation
Hope this helps
Cars are, generally speaking, vehicles which don't like the look of muddy fields!
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Posted 07/05/2010 - 23:40
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Well, the answer is actually The City of London. It has no Roads.
If you don't agree, name any Road in the City of London.
If you don't agree, name any Road in the City of London.
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Posted 07/05/2010 - 23:59
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I went seriously off landrovers when a Dutch lady knocked me off my bike and smashed up my knee with one. Although I can see the advantage in a muddy field, what on earth is the point of those gas guzzling monstrosities in the middle of London?
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Posted 08/05/2010 - 00:24
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I don't understand urban 4x4s at all. It's downright cruel to keep them away from mud like that! A proper 4x4 has mud, dents, scratches, and a driver who knows what all the extra levers do.
I use my Discovery to get to places that you'd stand little chance of reaching on foot in reasonable comfort, which makes for good photography:
I use my Discovery to get to places that you'd stand little chance of reaching on foot in reasonable comfort, which makes for good photography:
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Posted 08/05/2010 - 07:33
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Kris I own a LR and have to say there is a certain secret pleasure in driving one in traffic especially with bigger tyres and a very obvious crumple zone. But I totally agree they are not an appropriate form of transport in general nor are any of these dopey 4x4 style vehicles. Matt has the right idea.
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Posted 08/05/2010 - 08:04
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I sold my Disco for sundry reasons but getting about 30 mpg was one of them and I'm not sure the more modern ones are much better. But with your 'previous' you know all about filling up 20 gallon tanks
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