not impresed

vic cross
Posted 25/03/2015 - 17:57 Link
I was on the stand for approx. half an hour and did not hear one European accent or see one Japanese person among the reps. If they were at lunch (12.45 to.1.15) together then that was bad planning. They don't have to sell on the stand but they can be there to answer users (old and new) technical questions. I spoke to two young reps and they were not what you could call completely clued up. So OK they let you play with the equipment that was available but was that really enough????????????????
CHEERS Vic.
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stu62
Posted 25/03/2015 - 18:23 Link
vic cross wrote:
I was on the stand for approx. half an hour and did not hear one European accent or see one Japanese person among the reps. If they were at lunch (12.45 to.1.15) together then that was bad planning. They don't have to sell on the stand but they can be there to answer users (old and new) technical questions. I spoke to two young reps and they were not what you could call completely clued up. So OK they let you play with the equipment that was available but was that really enough????????????????
CHEERS Vic.


and i had to push to let me play with them and then i wasnt alowed to try it on my camera

at the end of the day they had products to promot and to me they was not doing that you have to sell that product so that when that person gose away they want to buy and i think a lot of people did not

there was a lot of people walking past and not even giving them a second glance

buisness is buisness and you have to grab the bull by the horns and shake it up
Tngc
Posted 25/03/2015 - 19:15 Link
No matter what a manufacturer does there is always someone that will have a moan that it wasn't good enough, even Canon, their stand was three times the size of Ricoh's and Canon user's were bleating on facebook that it was rubbish!.
They can't win.
George Lazarette
Posted 25/03/2015 - 20:19 Link
Tngc wrote:
No matter what a manufacturer does there is always someone that will have a moan that it wasn't good enough, even Canon, their stand was three times the size of Ricoh's and Canon user's were bleating on facebook that it was rubbish!.
They can't win.
Yes, but in all fairness, it probably was!

G
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stu62
Posted 26/03/2015 - 11:11 Link
George Lazarette wrote:
Tngc wrote:
No matter what a manufacturer does there is always someone that will have a moan that it wasn't good enough, even Canon, their stand was three times the size of Ricoh's and Canon user's were bleating on facebook that it was rubbish!.
They can't win.
Yes, but in all fairness, it probably was!





G
i think in fairnes to canon they did not anticipate the amount of people to assend on there stand all at once
at least they knew what the price of stuff was and not direct you somewhere else and that was show price
Edited by stu62: 26/03/2015 - 11:12
McGregNi
Posted 26/03/2015 - 11:24 Link
To me it shouldn't be about size ... Sure, a good coverage of the range is needed. But the key element to this sort of event and ' promotion' must surely be DEMONSTRATION ...!!!

Anyone can see good pictures of the products plus technical details on the website. The real added value of a show is through demonstration, and proving results. That's what I mean about the flash issue ... SHOW (that's part of the event name right ?) people what possibilities there are through the fuller DSLR system. Get them believing the the Pentax system will give the best results in the most efficient way ...

'Hi there... Ever tried HSS flash? Here's the latest DSLR and flash ready to go ... Click the button ... Hey, that's a great shot you got there! Look, here's the key settings you need, see how easy it is and it all works really reliably! Great to see you, glad its been a help ' .....
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stu62
Posted 26/03/2015 - 11:33 Link
how correct you are and pentax was not doing that
i was with a canon user and not only that he sells cameras for a living
and he was not impressed
and they are the hardist people to sell to
derek897
Posted 26/03/2015 - 14:24 Link
I've never been to a show but if I went I'd be expecting this exactly.




McGregNi wrote:
To me it shouldn't be about size ... Sure, a good coverage of the range is needed. But the key element to this sort of event and ' promotion' must surely be DEMONSTRATION ...!!!

Anyone can see good pictures of the products plus technical details on the website. The real added value of a show is through demonstration, and proving results. That's what I mean about the flash issue ... SHOW (that's part of the event name right ?) people what possibilities there are through the fuller DSLR system. Get them believing the the Pentax system will give the best results in the most efficient way ...

'Hi there... Ever tried HSS flash? Here's the latest DSLR and flash ready to go ... Click the button ... Hey, that's a great shot you got there! Look, here's the key settings you need, see how easy it is and it all works really reliably! Great to see you, glad its been a help ' .....
I know what i like, If not always why.
George Lazarette
Posted 26/03/2015 - 14:32 Link
stu62 wrote:
George Lazarette wrote:


Yes, but in all fairness, it probably was!


G
i think in fairnes to canon they did not anticipate the amount of people to assend on there stand all at once
at least they knew what the price of stuff was and not direct you somewhere else and that was show price
I was jesting, Stu.

The fact that users of other makes also complained shows that Pentax was not alone in disappointing its users.

Does this mean that manufacturers are generally inept at running shows, or are users hard to please?

Probably a bit of both, but at least Pentax is not alone.

G
Keywords: Charming, polite, and generally agreeable.
stu62
Posted 26/03/2015 - 15:01 Link
to be honest G
to me the company that stood out was panasonic which had an arena set up with somthing going on in it 95%of the time all there cameras was setout round it loaded with memory cards so you could pick up the camera and take a few photo and they openly said to you play with them look at what they can doand the results
to me that is a good marketing ploy (i wont be buying one though as not a fan of mirrorless)

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by the way i didnt play with them as i had my k5

stu
George Lazarette
Posted 26/03/2015 - 17:07 Link
Interesting picture, Stu.

You said they let you play with everything on the stand. Hmmm. I think I can see why you liked it so much.

Cheers

G
Keywords: Charming, polite, and generally agreeable.
stu62
Posted 26/03/2015 - 17:17 Link
lol G with in reason i think she would kill me
jeallen01
Posted 26/03/2015 - 20:34 Link
caj26 wrote:
I was there from 1pm on Sunday. Spoke to two forum members. Stewart from Pentax let me play with the fisheye and the 100 wr that I want. The 100 was his own lens. Perhaps we should have a badge with Pentax foum members on ( maybe we would get discounts!)
I was also one of those you met - hope you get that 100 Macro WR for a good price

John
K-3 II, K-3 and a K-70 from SRS (having now relegated the K-30 /"K-50" to a backup body), & some Sigma and Pentax lenses (and a lot of old 35mm gear!)

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