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Posted 10/05/2009 - 19:14
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Those are standard screen modes so it isn't so hard to place down some numbers.
The thing I'm curious about is what the file format will be, D90 use JPG video I believe I don't like that so Hopefully it's AVI or something like that.
The thing I'm curious about is what the file format will be, D90 use JPG video I believe I don't like that so Hopefully it's AVI or something like that.
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Posted 10/05/2009 - 23:21
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what if that really long flat prism is made that way because the af uses a hybrid of safox and moving the sensor forward and backward...which would make all mf lenses af, make all older af lenses focus faster, AND allow af in video mode? of course the video would need distance info from the lens itself, but pentax did file a patent for that and they did revamp new lenses before they even released them...hmmmn..sounds plausible to me...
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Posted 11/05/2009 - 10:06
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It is somewhat pointless to speculate too much on this topic given the launch is so close to hand, but I am excited by the prospects for this camera so a few comments nevertheless spring to mind.
First of all while you can always find people who will take different points of view, I am confident that the proverbial 9 out of 10 experts in competitive strategy would agree that one or both of Pentax and Olympus will drop out of the dslr market in the next few years, all other things being equal.
Hoya's financial report mentions persistent exceptional costs related to consultancy services, and I have little doubt this is the advice they will be getting, assuming they are hiring the right people.
For this reason, reports that the K7 will be a reboxed K20 albeit a little better seem unlikely to me; that would merely allow Pentax to stand still competitively, whereas what they urgently need is to grow market share substantially, say by a factor of at least 2-3 times.
Further, given the D5000 and D90 cameras are available relatively cheaply, a K7 with video but lacking autofocus is a me too product that just lets Pentax stand still, delaying the inevitable.
I have seen several consumer reviews bemoaning the lack of autofocus on these models, and notwithstanding technical challenges and differences, I believe the mass market will rightly reject a relatively expensive camera that can't even do what their cheapo point and shoot will.
However, in an era where the mass market is posting pictures and video to Facebook, etc, I believe the introduction of a useable dslr/video combo could transform the competitive landscape in much the same way as when digital displaced film; if Pentax play their cards right they have the potential to repair much of the damage done during that fiasco, especially if their solution is patentable.
I really hope they can get this right, because I want that product.
First of all while you can always find people who will take different points of view, I am confident that the proverbial 9 out of 10 experts in competitive strategy would agree that one or both of Pentax and Olympus will drop out of the dslr market in the next few years, all other things being equal.
Hoya's financial report mentions persistent exceptional costs related to consultancy services, and I have little doubt this is the advice they will be getting, assuming they are hiring the right people.
For this reason, reports that the K7 will be a reboxed K20 albeit a little better seem unlikely to me; that would merely allow Pentax to stand still competitively, whereas what they urgently need is to grow market share substantially, say by a factor of at least 2-3 times.
Further, given the D5000 and D90 cameras are available relatively cheaply, a K7 with video but lacking autofocus is a me too product that just lets Pentax stand still, delaying the inevitable.
I have seen several consumer reviews bemoaning the lack of autofocus on these models, and notwithstanding technical challenges and differences, I believe the mass market will rightly reject a relatively expensive camera that can't even do what their cheapo point and shoot will.
However, in an era where the mass market is posting pictures and video to Facebook, etc, I believe the introduction of a useable dslr/video combo could transform the competitive landscape in much the same way as when digital displaced film; if Pentax play their cards right they have the potential to repair much of the damage done during that fiasco, especially if their solution is patentable.
I really hope they can get this right, because I want that product.
Posted 11/05/2009 - 10:31
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Shaky wrote:
It is somewhat pointless to speculate too much on this topic given the launch is so close to hand, but I am excited by the prospects for this camera so a few comments nevertheless spring to mind.
First of all while you can always find people who will take different points of view, I am confident that the proverbial 9 out of 10 experts in competitive strategy would agree that one or both of Pentax and Olympus will drop out of the dslr market in the next few years, all other things being equal.
Hoya's financial report mentions persistent exceptional costs related to consultancy services, and I have little doubt this is the advice they will be getting, assuming they are hiring the right people.
For this reason, reports that the K7 will be a reboxed K20 albeit a little better seem unlikely to me; that would merely allow Pentax to stand still competitively, whereas what they urgently need is to grow market share substantially, say by a factor of at least 2-3 times.
Further, given the D5000 and D90 cameras are available relatively cheaply, a K7 with video but lacking autofocus is a me too product that just lets Pentax stand still, delaying the inevitable.
I have seen several consumer reviews bemoaning the lack of autofocus on these models, and notwithstanding technical challenges and differences, I believe the mass market will rightly reject a relatively expensive camera that can't even do what their cheapo point and shoot will.
However, in an era where the mass market is posting pictures and video to Facebook, etc, I believe the introduction of a useable dslr/video combo could transform the competitive landscape in much the same way as when digital displaced film; if Pentax play their cards right they have the potential to repair much of the damage done during that fiasco, especially if their solution is patentable.
I really hope they can get this right, because I want that product.
Are you buying a DSLR or are you buying a PnS? A DSLR should remain a DSLR and video as a necessary evilIt is somewhat pointless to speculate too much on this topic given the launch is so close to hand, but I am excited by the prospects for this camera so a few comments nevertheless spring to mind.
First of all while you can always find people who will take different points of view, I am confident that the proverbial 9 out of 10 experts in competitive strategy would agree that one or both of Pentax and Olympus will drop out of the dslr market in the next few years, all other things being equal.
Hoya's financial report mentions persistent exceptional costs related to consultancy services, and I have little doubt this is the advice they will be getting, assuming they are hiring the right people.
For this reason, reports that the K7 will be a reboxed K20 albeit a little better seem unlikely to me; that would merely allow Pentax to stand still competitively, whereas what they urgently need is to grow market share substantially, say by a factor of at least 2-3 times.
Further, given the D5000 and D90 cameras are available relatively cheaply, a K7 with video but lacking autofocus is a me too product that just lets Pentax stand still, delaying the inevitable.
I have seen several consumer reviews bemoaning the lack of autofocus on these models, and notwithstanding technical challenges and differences, I believe the mass market will rightly reject a relatively expensive camera that can't even do what their cheapo point and shoot will.
However, in an era where the mass market is posting pictures and video to Facebook, etc, I believe the introduction of a useable dslr/video combo could transform the competitive landscape in much the same way as when digital displaced film; if Pentax play their cards right they have the potential to repair much of the damage done during that fiasco, especially if their solution is patentable.
I really hope they can get this right, because I want that product.
Are you sure digital HAS displaced film? Many of us are still shooting film for the full frame.
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Posted 11/05/2009 - 10:52
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felix wrote:
Are you buying a DSLR or are you buying a PnS? A DSLR should remain a DSLR and video as a necessary evil
Are you sure digital HAS displaced film? Many of us are still shooting film for the full frame.
Are you serious? Poe's Law would seem to apply here:Are you buying a DSLR or are you buying a PnS? A DSLR should remain a DSLR and video as a necessary evil
Are you sure digital HAS displaced film? Many of us are still shooting film for the full frame.
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Poe's Law relates to fundamentalism, and the difficulty of identifying actual parodies thereof. It suggests that, in general, it is hard to tell fake fundamentalism from the real thing, since they may both espouse equally extreme beliefs. Poe's law also works in reverse: real fundamentalism can also be indistinguishable from parody fundamentalism.
See: http://rationalwiki.com/wiki/Poe%27s_Law
Poe's Law relates to fundamentalism, and the difficulty of identifying actual parodies thereof. It suggests that, in general, it is hard to tell fake fundamentalism from the real thing, since they may both espouse equally extreme beliefs. Poe's law also works in reverse: real fundamentalism can also be indistinguishable from parody fundamentalism.
Posted 11/05/2009 - 13:30
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Shaky wrote:
It is somewhat pointless to speculate too much on this topic given the launch is so close to hand, but I am excited by the prospects for this camera so a few comments nevertheless spring to mind.
First of all while you can always find people who will take different points of view, I am confident that the proverbial 9 out of 10 experts in competitive strategy would agree that one or both of Pentax and Olympus will drop out of the dslr market in the next few years, all other things being equal.
Hoya's financial report mentions persistent exceptional costs related to consultancy services, and I have little doubt this is the advice they will be getting, assuming they are hiring the right people.
For this reason, reports that the K7 will be a reboxed K20 albeit a little better seem unlikely to me; that would merely allow Pentax to stand still competitively, whereas what they urgently need is to grow market share substantially, say by a factor of at least 2-3 times.
Further, given the D5000 and D90 cameras are available relatively cheaply, a K7 with video but lacking autofocus is a me too product that just lets Pentax stand still, delaying the inevitable.
I have seen several consumer reviews bemoaning the lack of autofocus on these models, and notwithstanding technical challenges and differences, I believe the mass market will rightly reject a relatively expensive camera that can't even do what their cheapo point and shoot will.
However, in an era where the mass market is posting pictures and video to Facebook, etc, I believe the introduction of a useable dslr/video combo could transform the competitive landscape in much the same way as when digital displaced film; if Pentax play their cards right they have the potential to repair much of the damage done during that fiasco, especially if their solution is patentable.
I really hope they can get this right, because I want that product.
it's pointless to argue over speculation...It is somewhat pointless to speculate too much on this topic given the launch is so close to hand, but I am excited by the prospects for this camera so a few comments nevertheless spring to mind.
First of all while you can always find people who will take different points of view, I am confident that the proverbial 9 out of 10 experts in competitive strategy would agree that one or both of Pentax and Olympus will drop out of the dslr market in the next few years, all other things being equal.
Hoya's financial report mentions persistent exceptional costs related to consultancy services, and I have little doubt this is the advice they will be getting, assuming they are hiring the right people.
For this reason, reports that the K7 will be a reboxed K20 albeit a little better seem unlikely to me; that would merely allow Pentax to stand still competitively, whereas what they urgently need is to grow market share substantially, say by a factor of at least 2-3 times.
Further, given the D5000 and D90 cameras are available relatively cheaply, a K7 with video but lacking autofocus is a me too product that just lets Pentax stand still, delaying the inevitable.
I have seen several consumer reviews bemoaning the lack of autofocus on these models, and notwithstanding technical challenges and differences, I believe the mass market will rightly reject a relatively expensive camera that can't even do what their cheapo point and shoot will.
However, in an era where the mass market is posting pictures and video to Facebook, etc, I believe the introduction of a useable dslr/video combo could transform the competitive landscape in much the same way as when digital displaced film; if Pentax play their cards right they have the potential to repair much of the damage done during that fiasco, especially if their solution is patentable.
I really hope they can get this right, because I want that product.
but any thought exercises and exchanges of ideas is bound to be entertaining, at the least and educational if your lucky.
If two people exchange loaves of bread, each walks away with what they started with...a loaf of bread....but if two people exchange one idea each...they each walk away with more than what they had when they started with, they each leave with TWO ideas!
Fired many shots. Didn't kill anything.
Posted 11/05/2009 - 13:50
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If two people exchange loaves of bread, each walks away with what they started with...a loaf of bread....but if two people exchange one idea each...they each walk away with more than what they had when they started with, they each leave with TWO ideas!
Unless both ideas are the same.....
Unless both ideas are the same.....
Posted 11/05/2009 - 14:57
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exchanging loaves of bread just sounds like a good way to transmit swine flu to me!!
you don't have to be mad to post here
but it does help
but it does help
Posted 11/05/2009 - 15:04
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of course there's always the possibility of beating the one guy unconscious, with a loaf of bread, for stealing your idea...
Fired many shots. Didn't kill anything.
Posted 11/05/2009 - 16:46
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Greytop wrote:
I can just feel the anticipation here
yeah, I could really do with a nice crusty loaf of bread right now.....with butter on mmmmmm tasty......I can just feel the anticipation here
I'm sorry were you thinking about something else?
you don't have to be mad to post here
but it does help
but it does help
Posted 11/05/2009 - 19:03
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Fron an ergonomics point of view, Pentax seem to be copying Nikon...judging by the close up photos of the buttons and their placement.
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