My K5 Sample Shots from SRS Open Day
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Posted 11/10/2010 - 12:10
thanks very much for taking the effort to do this.
i was initially a bit disappointed by the noise results, even though they do look quite good.
then i realised that you were pointing it at a dark area, so the noise is being exaggerated in all those shots. i'm going to peep at the full versions to see whether it's worth upgrading to from my k7.
thanks for the effort again—much appreciated.
k7, 15/4, 31/1.8, 70/2.4, 200/2.8, Metz 58
i was initially a bit disappointed by the noise results, even though they do look quite good.
then i realised that you were pointing it at a dark area, so the noise is being exaggerated in all those shots. i'm going to peep at the full versions to see whether it's worth upgrading to from my k7.
thanks for the effort again—much appreciated.
k7, 15/4, 31/1.8, 70/2.4, 200/2.8, Metz 58
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Posted 11/10/2010 - 12:18
gillbod wrote:
thanks very much for taking the effort to do this.
i was initially a bit disappointed by the noise results, even though they do look quite good.
then i realised that you were pointing it at a dark area, so the noise is being exaggerated in all those shots. i'm going to peep at the full versions to see whether it's worth upgrading to from my k7.
thanks for the effort again—much appreciated.
thanks very much for taking the effort to do this.
i was initially a bit disappointed by the noise results, even though they do look quite good.
then i realised that you were pointing it at a dark area, so the noise is being exaggerated in all those shots. i'm going to peep at the full versions to see whether it's worth upgrading to from my k7.
thanks for the effort again—much appreciated.
thanks!
Yes the noise is exaggerated... I'm still uploading shots, the sequence you are after is IMGP3520 -> 3528, which will be another few hours to make it up...
Still shooting in the dark (literally and metaphorically)...
Last Edited by flossie on 11/10/2010 - 12:20
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Posted 11/10/2010 - 15:15
Finished uploading shots (for now). Try not to break my website by posting links all over the world 
Still shooting in the dark (literally and metaphorically)...
Still shooting in the dark (literally and metaphorically)...
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Posted 11/10/2010 - 16:48
Well thankyou very much Flossie!.....Nice to see I dont have to upgrade from my K20D
K20D...ist DS ,DA18/55,DA16/45.DA* 50/135,"A"1.7 50MM..."A" 70/210..M 50mm f2...Tamron 90mm macro,28/300 Tamron,200/500 Tamron 6.9....A Pentax DA*300... Sigma10/20,FA31mm 1.8 Ltd*********,FA 77mm Ltd!
K20D...ist DS ,DA18/55,DA16/45.DA* 50/135,"A"1.7 50MM..."A" 70/210..M 50mm f2...Tamron 90mm macro,28/300 Tamron,200/500 Tamron 6.9....A Pentax DA*300... Sigma10/20,FA31mm 1.8 Ltd*********,FA 77mm Ltd!
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Posted 11/10/2010 - 17:52
I think they show very effectively that the K5 is up there with the Kx and that ISO 1600 is usable in a way it simply isn't on a K10D.
thanks for these.
Bret
my pics: link
my kit: K3, K5, K-01, DA 18-55, D-FA50 macro, Siggy 30/1.4, 100-300/f4, 70-200/2.8, Samsung 12-24/f4, Tamron 17-50, and lots of other bits.
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thanks for these.
Bret
my pics: link
my kit: K3, K5, K-01, DA 18-55, D-FA50 macro, Siggy 30/1.4, 100-300/f4, 70-200/2.8, Samsung 12-24/f4, Tamron 17-50, and lots of other bits.
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Posted 11/10/2010 - 18:04
bretti_kivi wrote:
I think they show very effectively that the K5 is up there with the Kx and that ISO 1600 is usable in a way it simply isn't on a K10D.
I think they show very effectively that the K5 is up there with the Kx and that ISO 1600 is usable in a way it simply isn't on a K10D.
I'd agree with that. Bear in mind if the pictures were taken more normally, processed in Lightroom, and not blown-up 1:1, they would look significantly better.
I'd say that you can happily shoot all day at 800/1600 ISO indoors without any PP work, and very comfortably at 3200/6400 ISO (e.g. concerts) with some attention. For an APS camera, you won't get better for low-light shooting (it definatly focused-better than the Kx)
Still shooting in the dark (literally and metaphorically)...
Last Edited by flossie on 11/10/2010 - 18:05
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Posted 11/10/2010 - 23:14
Much thanks for this flossie.
Even though I'm eager to have a look at the RAWs I'll download them in the early hours to avoid clogging your bandwidth at peak times.
[i]Bodies: 1x K-5IIs, 2x K-5, Sony TX-5, Nokia 808
Lenses: Pentax DA 10-17mm ED(IF) Fish Eye, Pentax DA 14mm f/2.8, Sigma 17-70mm f/2.8, Pentax-A 28mm f/2.8, Sigma 30mm F1.4 EX DC, Pentax-A 50mm f/1.2, Pentax-A 50mm f/1.4, Pentax-FA 50mm f/1.4, Pentax-A 50mm f/1.7, Pentax DA* 50-135mm f/2.8, Sigma 135-400mm APO DG, and more ..
Flash: AF-540FGZ, Vivitar 283
Even though I'm eager to have a look at the RAWs I'll download them in the early hours to avoid clogging your bandwidth at peak times.
[i]Bodies: 1x K-5IIs, 2x K-5, Sony TX-5, Nokia 808
Lenses: Pentax DA 10-17mm ED(IF) Fish Eye, Pentax DA 14mm f/2.8, Sigma 17-70mm f/2.8, Pentax-A 28mm f/2.8, Sigma 30mm F1.4 EX DC, Pentax-A 50mm f/1.2, Pentax-A 50mm f/1.4, Pentax-FA 50mm f/1.4, Pentax-A 50mm f/1.7, Pentax DA* 50-135mm f/2.8, Sigma 135-400mm APO DG, and more ..
Flash: AF-540FGZ, Vivitar 283
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Posted 12/10/2010 - 00:35
Thanks for showing the early K-5 shots, but i'm actually expecting from a real photogs/enthusiast who knew how to handle things even how to show those HIGH ISO PICTURES. Because there is no such DSLR camera that uses very high iso and shoot in dark can produce clean 100% CROP picture. Could you at least show us the whole picture of those high iso, specially those 6400, 12800 and 25600. Even in 800 x 600 so the viewer can decide if those HIGH ISO SHOTS are useable or not.
Altho the new pentax K-5 has an extended limit about amount of low light it can accept to produce a usable image but exaggerating it to a more darker subject, the result may not please you unless you look for some effects in a black and white kinda..
darrel
Altho the new pentax K-5 has an extended limit about amount of low light it can accept to produce a usable image but exaggerating it to a more darker subject, the result may not please you unless you look for some effects in a black and white kinda..
darrel
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Posted 12/10/2010 - 00:50
darelo wrote:
Thanks for showing the early K-5 shots, but i'm actually expecting from a real photogs/enthusiast who knew how to handle things even how to show those HIGH ISO PICTURES. Because there is no such DSLR camera that uses very high iso and shoot in dark can produce clean 100% CROP picture. Could you at least show us the whole picture of those high iso, specially those 6400, 12800 and 25600. Even in 800 x 600 so the viewer can decide if those HIGH ISO SHOTS are useable or not.
Altho the new pentax K-5 has an extended limit about amount of low light it can accept to produce a usable image but exaggerating it to a more darker subject, the result may not please you unless you look for some effects in a black and white kinda..
darrel
Thanks for showing the early K-5 shots, but i'm actually expecting from a real photogs/enthusiast who knew how to handle things even how to show those HIGH ISO PICTURES. Because there is no such DSLR camera that uses very high iso and shoot in dark can produce clean 100% CROP picture. Could you at least show us the whole picture of those high iso, specially those 6400, 12800 and 25600. Even in 800 x 600 so the viewer can decide if those HIGH ISO SHOTS are useable or not.
Altho the new pentax K-5 has an extended limit about amount of low light it can accept to produce a usable image but exaggerating it to a more darker subject, the result may not please you unless you look for some effects in a black and white kinda..
darrel
See the OP
[i]Bodies: 1x K-5IIs, 2x K-5, Sony TX-5, Nokia 808
Lenses: Pentax DA 10-17mm ED(IF) Fish Eye, Pentax DA 14mm f/2.8, Sigma 17-70mm f/2.8, Pentax-A 28mm f/2.8, Sigma 30mm F1.4 EX DC, Pentax-A 50mm f/1.2, Pentax-A 50mm f/1.4, Pentax-FA 50mm f/1.4, Pentax-A 50mm f/1.7, Pentax DA* 50-135mm f/2.8, Sigma 135-400mm APO DG, and more ..
Flash: AF-540FGZ, Vivitar 283
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Posted 12/10/2010 - 02:20
For some odd reason I can't open the PEF files in Lightroom 3.2
Id that because LR can't recognise PEF files or because it doesn't recognise the K-5 ??
I always shoot DNG
[i]Bodies: 1x K-5IIs, 2x K-5, Sony TX-5, Nokia 808
Lenses: Pentax DA 10-17mm ED(IF) Fish Eye, Pentax DA 14mm f/2.8, Sigma 17-70mm f/2.8, Pentax-A 28mm f/2.8, Sigma 30mm F1.4 EX DC, Pentax-A 50mm f/1.2, Pentax-A 50mm f/1.4, Pentax-FA 50mm f/1.4, Pentax-A 50mm f/1.7, Pentax DA* 50-135mm f/2.8, Sigma 135-400mm APO DG, and more ..
Flash: AF-540FGZ, Vivitar 283
Id that because LR can't recognise PEF files or because it doesn't recognise the K-5 ??
I always shoot DNG
[i]Bodies: 1x K-5IIs, 2x K-5, Sony TX-5, Nokia 808
Lenses: Pentax DA 10-17mm ED(IF) Fish Eye, Pentax DA 14mm f/2.8, Sigma 17-70mm f/2.8, Pentax-A 28mm f/2.8, Sigma 30mm F1.4 EX DC, Pentax-A 50mm f/1.2, Pentax-A 50mm f/1.4, Pentax-FA 50mm f/1.4, Pentax-A 50mm f/1.7, Pentax DA* 50-135mm f/2.8, Sigma 135-400mm APO DG, and more ..
Flash: AF-540FGZ, Vivitar 283
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Posted 12/10/2010 - 08:56
Smeggy - you can't open PEFs from the K5 in Lightroom yet. It needs an update to do that, which isn't yet out. Every camera produces different PEFs and software needs an update to read it. Same with other manufacturers RAW files btw. NEFs from the D7000 will be equally unreadable.
Since Lightroom is pretty new, recently updated in fact, and all these manufacturers knew they were bringing out new cameras it would have been nice if they'd shared with Adobe and all the other RAW converters so they were set up and ready to go. But that requires too much co-operation of course.
Since Lightroom is pretty new, recently updated in fact, and all these manufacturers knew they were bringing out new cameras it would have been nice if they'd shared with Adobe and all the other RAW converters so they were set up and ready to go. But that requires too much co-operation of course.
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Posted 12/10/2010 - 09:14
Smeggy - the only program that I could get to decode the PEF files was Irfanview (see the SRS thread).
As said in the OP, you can download full-size files from here.
Forum rules restrict me to 800-pixels wide, but here you go for the uncropped, shrunk, versions, run through Lightroom at default settings (apart from my standard +40 Fill Light).
Please bear in mind I was very limited in what I could achieve in a short demo inside a shop. This was a dark under-counter area, lit only by reflected ambient light from a doorway and the shop. If I had one for a day at work I'd produce much more meaningful tests!
ISO 25600 -> ISO 100
Still shooting in the dark (literally and metaphorically)...
darelo wrote:
Thanks for showing the early K-5 shots, but i'm actually expecting from a real photogs/enthusiast who knew how to handle things even how to show those HIGH ISO PICTURES. Because there is no such DSLR camera that uses very high iso and shoot in dark can produce clean 100% CROP picture. Could you at least show us the whole picture of those high iso, specially those 6400, 12800 and 25600. Even in 800 x 600 so the viewer can decide if those HIGH ISO SHOTS are useable or not.
Altho the new pentax K-5 has an extended limit about amount of low light it can accept to produce a usable image but exaggerating it to a more darker subject, the result may not please you unless you look for some effects in a black and white kinda..
darrel
Thanks for showing the early K-5 shots, but i'm actually expecting from a real photogs/enthusiast who knew how to handle things even how to show those HIGH ISO PICTURES. Because there is no such DSLR camera that uses very high iso and shoot in dark can produce clean 100% CROP picture. Could you at least show us the whole picture of those high iso, specially those 6400, 12800 and 25600. Even in 800 x 600 so the viewer can decide if those HIGH ISO SHOTS are useable or not.
Altho the new pentax K-5 has an extended limit about amount of low light it can accept to produce a usable image but exaggerating it to a more darker subject, the result may not please you unless you look for some effects in a black and white kinda..
darrel
As said in the OP, you can download full-size files from here.
Forum rules restrict me to 800-pixels wide, but here you go for the uncropped, shrunk, versions, run through Lightroom at default settings (apart from my standard +40 Fill Light).
Please bear in mind I was very limited in what I could achieve in a short demo inside a shop. This was a dark under-counter area, lit only by reflected ambient light from a doorway and the shop. If I had one for a day at work I'd produce much more meaningful tests!
ISO 25600 -> ISO 100
Still shooting in the dark (literally and metaphorically)...
Last Edited by flossie on 12/10/2010 - 09:17
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Posted 12/10/2010 - 09:27
Smeggypants wrote:
For some odd reason I can't open the PEF files in Lightroom 3.2
Id that because LR can't recognise PEF files or because it doesn't recognise the K-5 ??
I always shoot DNG
For some odd reason I can't open the PEF files in Lightroom 3.2
Id that because LR can't recognise PEF files or because it doesn't recognise the K-5 ??
I always shoot DNG
Smeggy, use Faststone viewer to open it and view. Its simple, fast and free
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Please bear in mind, I'm not an expert in evaluating cameras, and I was only interested in how the ergonomics of the K5 felt to me, and how it responded with some of my lenses, with respect to focus speed and ability to lock. I used three of my favourite lenses : DA* 50-135, DA 12-24, and A 50/1.7.
Settings were AV Mode, +0 EV, Centre-Spot Focus and Default metering.
Shots with a (C) on the corner have been through my default Lightroom import of +40 Fill Light but no other tweaks and are uncropped & shrunk to 800 pixels. RAW conversion done by Irfanview - no support in Lightroom yet for K5.
Big thanks to SRS for letting me play about and put my cards & lenses on.
DA* 50-135 @50mm ISO 800 F2.8 1/250sec
A50 1/7 ISO 800 F.1.7 1/90sec (Manual Focus...)
DA 12-24
ISO 100 @14mm :
ISO 400 @19mm :
ISO 800 @24mm :
ISO 1600 @14mm :
645D vs K5 :
645D @55mm F.2.8 1/40sec ISO 200 +0.3EV
K5 DA*50-135 @63mm F.5.6 1/45sec ISO 800 +0.0EV
And now the monster, this was looking down at a dark bit of the counter, and is through glass - blur shows where the SR gave up! Centre-ish crop to show the same area.
1:1 Pixels, 100% JPG Quality, No Post-Processing!
DA*50-135 @63mm F.2.8 ISO 25600 -> 100
For any Pixel-Peepers or anyone who wants to see full-size versions :
LINK TO VERY LARGE TIFF AND RAW FILES - but don't rush, its going to be uploading for hours...!
Still shooting in the dark (literally and metaphorically)...