Messed-up clearing viewfinder

bychan
Posted 12/11/2011 - 17:34 Link
Confession time, I have screwed-up.

I decided to give it a go in trying to clean the dust spots visible in my viewfinder (K5), as illustrated here link

Now I wish I had not, in that the viewfinder now resembles a barbershop’s floor: Why did my curiosity get the better of me...

To rectify I have tried blowing the particles away with the rocket blower, plus gently applying the Pentax lollipop sensor cleaner; both had zero effect

I understand that the screen can be removed, how can I do this and how can it be cleaned?

Any help greatly appreciated.

Regards
Embarrassed Adrian
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davidstorm
Posted 12/11/2011 - 17:43 Link
Not sure if the K-5 is the same as the K-x and K-m in the viewfinder dept, but with these cameras it's pretty simple to remove the focussing screen, clean it and put it back. It's held in place by a small metal spring bracket that is shaped to fit around the sides of the screen and that clips it to a lug behind. Unclip it and pull it forwards; you can then remove the screen. It's a bit fiddly, but not too difficult.
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puma
Posted 12/11/2011 - 18:19 Link
I hope this helps you see link LET KNOW IF THATS WORKS FOR YOU
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Edited by puma: 12/11/2011 - 18:20
bychan
Posted 12/11/2011 - 20:58 Link
Thanks both for the info.
Puma, I have seen the video for the K10, trouble is I do not have the supplied tools for removing the screen.

Regards
Adrian
K5IIs, Sigma 10-20, Pentax DA 16-85, Pentax DA 55-300, Pentax 70 Ltd, Metz 44 AF-2.
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SteveEveritt
Posted 12/11/2011 - 21:02 Link
Adrian, after seeing the video I tried to do the same with my K-7 and it is surprisingly easy with an ordinary pair of tweezers and the clip opened easily with my fingernail.
Thanks Puma I have at last got shot of a shed load of dust.

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davidstorm
Posted 12/11/2011 - 21:07 Link
You can do it with tweezers, or anything small and rigid that enables you to unlatch the metal clip that holds it in place. I don't have any special tools but managed it no problems.

Regards
David
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jeffstclair
Posted 13/11/2011 - 06:32 Link
Yeah I agree with all of the above , I made a little tool out of a paper clip and it was a piece of cake to remove and change the focus screen. But the screen is very delicate ,I carefuly tried to clean the one I removed with a sensor cleaning pad and fluid and killed it .... jeff
bychan
Posted 13/11/2011 - 14:09 Link
Thanks for all the replies.

Sorry for more dumb questions, but I cannot see how I can remove the screen..

What do I do to the metal lug that keeps the screen in place, i.e. how do you release the screen?
I can gently move it down, but I'm afraid that this will break it.

Thanks again.
Adrian
K5IIs, Sigma 10-20, Pentax DA 16-85, Pentax DA 55-300, Pentax 70 Ltd, Metz 44 AF-2.
Flickr: https://www.flickr.com/photos/ambott/
Mannesty
Posted 13/11/2011 - 15:26 Link
You pull that spring clip forward and the focussing screen and it's cradle (the metal frame) will hinge down. You can then remove the screen with a pair of tweezers.
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gartmore
Posted 13/11/2011 - 15:57 Link
Its easiest of all if you have the proper Pentax tool that comes with a screen. Its terribly easy to mark a screen using tweasers. I know to my cost.
Ken
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davidstorm
Posted 13/11/2011 - 16:05 Link
Usually it should be just a quick dust with a dry microfibre cloth/tissue or a blow with the Rocket Blower - it should not need more than this.

jeffstclair wrote:
Yeah I agree with all of the above , I made a little tool out of a paper clip and it was a piece of cake to remove and change the focus screen. But the screen is very delicate ,I carefuly tried to clean the one I removed with a sensor cleaning pad and fluid and killed it .... jeff
Best to avoid wet cleaning if you can.

Regards
David
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jeffstclair
Posted 13/11/2011 - 16:30 Link
Adrian is your screen damaged or just dusty , cos if you are gonna clean it with a blower do it with it still in the camera. mine had a very small scratch on it that bugged me and it was a bit dusty, so I bought a replacement from e bay . Sadly it came without the tool,so I made one, and fitted the replacement and the waffer thin copper shim and now its fine.

Then I got the old screen and tried to clean it with a visable dust swab and fluid it just went completely misty and streaky and is now useless. This is on my second hand K100 and I live in a very remote village with no Camera shops!!! I don't know if I try it on a brand new K5... Jeff
bychan
Posted 13/11/2011 - 20:39 Link
I know what you mean, Ken, as the tweesers slipped a few times, resulting in a now scratched screen.

I was shaking like a leaf trying to get it back in, which didn't help matters.

It was still dirty when I eventually got it back in, so I had another go after walking the dog (less shaking when I got back)

Now that I had a better understanding of what to do, I got it out no problem. I gave it a gentle wipe with a anti-static cloth, which worked well. I repeated this a couple of times, and now the screen's useable again (albeit scratched/marked).

I can live with this until I can afford to buy a new screen (£48 cheapest from Taiwan) link.

I would agree that this would be easier with the proper Pentax clipper, which I presume would be supplied with an original Pentax screen.

Jeff, I initially tried blowing the particles off without removing the screen, but this had no effect.

Again thanks for all your help/advice.

Regards
Adrian
K5IIs, Sigma 10-20, Pentax DA 16-85, Pentax DA 55-300, Pentax 70 Ltd, Metz 44 AF-2.
Flickr: https://www.flickr.com/photos/ambott/
Mannesty
Posted 13/11/2011 - 23:22 Link
These focussing screens are made of a plastic material and should never be cleaned with any solvent, including sensor cleaning fluid which is mostly methanol.

I've never had the need to clean a screen from a DSLR, but in the past, I've had to for film cameras. I washed them in warm soapy water, dried them with a lint free cloth, and re-fitted them with no ill effects.

Careless use of metal tools to remove/refit them can cause damage, but they are tougher than you might think.
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