Mars and the Moon

graevy
Posted 29/01/2010 - 10:09 Link
Read this link today. Any tips for catching this? I don't have any fancy telescope equipment or anything like that though I would have thought 100mm would be a bit short no?
Mannesty
Posted 29/01/2010 - 10:53 Link
100mm is probably close to the correct angle of view to get both the moon and Mars in the frame. A longer focal length will reveal more detail from each of them, but only one at a time.

If it's not too cold, I'll be watching with my SMCP-K 500mm and DA* 300mm lenses.
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thoughton
Posted 29/01/2010 - 11:31 Link
Hmm in the article they say we'll be able to get both in one frame with an SLR. If you expose for the moon how will you get Mars to show up? It would have to be a blend of two shots, surely?
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Mongoose
Posted 29/01/2010 - 12:21 Link
the planets are generally bright enough that you can expose for both. Mars will look like a redish star through anything shorter than ~1000mm anyway so you only need to see it.

I would be inclined to use a shortish (100mm sounds about right, but maybe even shorter) lens and try to get the moon, Mars and some skyline interest into the shot.

Now, if you could get an exposure for the beehive as well and combine them...then you might be looking at a really interesting astro shot. If it's clear (fat chance) I might have a bash myself.
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thoughton
Posted 29/01/2010 - 13:03 Link
Hmmm okay maybe I'll give it a try. For my (admittedly highly amateur) moonshots I end up using around 1/160 to avoid overexposing it. I just don't see how a red pinprick is going to show up at that speed. However I don't know much about astro stuff so I am looking forward to being proved wrong
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El Dingo
Posted 29/01/2010 - 13:27 Link
I'm looking forward to this tonight. Hoping for a clear atmosphere!

I took some pics of Mars at 1,000 mm a month or so ago and it's stunning even at that focal length.

To photograph the pair together I'd try 100 - 135 mm.
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womble
Posted 29/01/2010 - 13:57 Link
Mannesty wrote:
100mm is probably close to the correct angle of view to get both the moon and Mars in the frame...
Cropped or FF?

Mannesty wrote:
If it's not too cold, I'll be watching with my SMCP-K 500mm and DA* 300mm lenses.
Show off...

El Dingo wrote:
I took some pics of Mars at 1,000 mm a month or so ago and it's stunning even at that focal length.
Even bigger show off!!
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Gwyn
Posted 29/01/2010 - 14:08 Link
No chance of seeing it here. Nasty mixture of rain and snow here all day and tonight too I fear. Certainly more snow is predicted for tomorrow .

At least it has washed away last weekend's snow and the resulting ice fields.
jackitec
Posted 29/01/2010 - 16:23 Link
Now that the rain has stopped and the sky is clear again I have my gear ready for tonight, I had a look at them last night and mars was quite red but just a dot, anyway will post on this thread later.

Jack.
fatspider
Posted 29/01/2010 - 17:36 Link
Quote:
100mm is probably close to the correct angle of view to get both the moon and Mars in the frame
??? according to the link in Graeme's post "Mars will be above and to the left of the Moon, about the length of an outstretched fist away" surely this is close enough to the moon that even a 500mm lens will still include both in the frame and still leave room for cropping later?

Regardless I'll be using the bigma so can zoom in to suit

Looks like its going to be cear tonight so lets see lots of pics on here tomorrow
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jackitec
Posted 29/01/2010 - 18:19 Link
Here you go this is not easy, moon and mars @ 115mm, mars @ 500mm cropped
The moon is so bright and there is haze in the sky will have a go later.

Jack.

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konrads
Posted 29/01/2010 - 19:39 Link
Wish I had clear sky tonight. Thunder storms is all I have to see. Our dams around the country are 110-120% full from all the rain. It's good and bad
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fatspider
Posted 29/01/2010 - 20:10 Link
Well Jacks pic answers my question, it looks a lot more than.....about the length of an outstretched fist away to me though

Think I might try the 50-135DA then
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jackitec
Posted 29/01/2010 - 20:16 Link
Just had a look mars is closer to the moon but higher up, to much haze for a decent photo, will have a look in a couple of hours,
Jack.
Edited by jackitec: 29/01/2010 - 20:17
Dangermouse
Posted 29/01/2010 - 20:19 Link
I tried earlier, but all I got was a white circle on a black background!

Any tips for making the features on the Moon visible to the camera, or is it just too bright?
Matt

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