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Posted 08/02/2007 - 21:20
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I'm very new to digital so may very well be right off track but why would you want this capability? Surely this is just as easy to do in post processing? The auto bracketing function that exists for use at time of capture seems to me to be the way to go so that a "true" exposure is gained. A pure white or black in a captured shot cannot have detail rescued but a bracketed exposure will do this. You would have a hard time producing HDR from a single exposure that was subsequently tweaked + and -. If I am talking garbage please treat my post with the contempt it deserves from a newbie
Posted 09/02/2007 - 00:06
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I think a better option would be an auto bracketing facility where the camera takes ONE image and then writes a further two to the users prefered settings. this would be ideal for things that are likely to move during exposure like birds.
Currently we have a typical scenario of;
frame 1, turns out OK but not brill'
frame 2, not quite right
frame 3, exposure right on the nail, only the thing flew away so all you have is a perfectly exposed blur!
OK OK, I know there is a lot of leeway with RAW and it would probably only be of use with jpeg but whats the point of having auto-bracketing if your going to push or pull the image later
PS; am I allowed to use the terms push and pull for digital?
Currently we have a typical scenario of;
frame 1, turns out OK but not brill'
frame 2, not quite right
frame 3, exposure right on the nail, only the thing flew away so all you have is a perfectly exposed blur!
OK OK, I know there is a lot of leeway with RAW and it would probably only be of use with jpeg but whats the point of having auto-bracketing if your going to push or pull the image later
PS; am I allowed to use the terms push and pull for digital?
Posted 09/02/2007 - 01:12
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I think the megapixel race is the wrong race for any camera manufacturer.
I don't see any point in having a new computer for every new camera body.
I believe that adding more computer into the camera body, and new processing/wireless networking/pda features will reduce he time I spend behind a computer, freeing up more time for taking pictures. So I think ALL sugestions about software features should be heard.
I'm opting for high dynamic range images, and in camera panoramic stiching with raw data.
I don't see any point in having a new computer for every new camera body.
I believe that adding more computer into the camera body, and new processing/wireless networking/pda features will reduce he time I spend behind a computer, freeing up more time for taking pictures. So I think ALL sugestions about software features should be heard.
I'm opting for high dynamic range images, and in camera panoramic stiching with raw data.
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Posted 09/02/2007 - 02:36
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I'm very new to digital so may very well be right off track but why would you want this capability? Surely this is just as easy to do in post processing? The auto bracketing function that exists for use at time of capture seems to me to be the way to go so that a "true" exposure is gained. A pure white or black in a captured shot cannot have detail rescued but a bracketed exposure will do this. You would have a hard time producing HDR from a single exposure that was subsequently tweaked + and -. If I am talking garbage please treat my post with the contempt it deserves from a newbie
Nope, you're the one who's got it right. As for the rest of the suggestions in this thread so far, I would pay extra to have them left out. They sound like the sort of stuff Fujifilm put in cameras!I'm very new to digital so may very well be right off track but why would you want this capability? Surely this is just as easy to do in post processing? The auto bracketing function that exists for use at time of capture seems to me to be the way to go so that a "true" exposure is gained. A pure white or black in a captured shot cannot have detail rescued but a bracketed exposure will do this. You would have a hard time producing HDR from a single exposure that was subsequently tweaked + and -. If I am talking garbage please treat my post with the contempt it deserves from a newbie
Colin
Posted 09/02/2007 - 16:04
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I think a better option would be an auto bracketing facility where the camera takes ONE image and then writes a further two to the users prefered settings. this would be ideal for things that are likely to move during exposure like birds.
Currently we have a typical scenario of;
frame 1, turns out OK but not brill'
frame 2, not quite right
frame 3, exposure right on the nail, only the thing flew away so all you have is a perfectly exposed blur!
OK OK, I know there is a lot of leeway with RAW and it would probably only be of use with jpeg but whats the point of having auto-bracketing if your going to push or pull the image later
PS; am I allowed to use the terms push and pull for digital?
But auto bracketing changes the physical exposure settings, you have to take multiple shots otherwise all you are doing is developing the RAW file +- 1 stop. Since the K10D RAW files are typically ~10 megs and its JPGs around 3 you might as well have just shot RAW in the first place.I think a better option would be an auto bracketing facility where the camera takes ONE image and then writes a further two to the users prefered settings. this would be ideal for things that are likely to move during exposure like birds.
Currently we have a typical scenario of;
frame 1, turns out OK but not brill'
frame 2, not quite right
frame 3, exposure right on the nail, only the thing flew away so all you have is a perfectly exposed blur!
OK OK, I know there is a lot of leeway with RAW and it would probably only be of use with jpeg but whats the point of having auto-bracketing if your going to push or pull the image later
PS; am I allowed to use the terms push and pull for digital?
If you are talking about WB, filters etc, it is my understanding that the K10D does this already. It's not something that interests me, so I don't use it.
No matter what advances Pentax and friends make to in camera editing, it will never be able to stand up to doing the same thing later in Photoshop. I would much rather pay Pentax £600 for a really 1st rate camera with no editing capabilities than £600 for a second rate camera with the ability to run Photoshop Elements.
Posted 09/02/2007 - 16:14
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I would much rather pay Pentax £600 for a really 1st rate camera with no editing capabilities than £600 for a second rate camera with the ability to run Photoshop Elements.
Me too. Moi aussi. And for Rodger the jammy dodger jetting of to Kenya: "Na mimi".I would much rather pay Pentax £600 for a really 1st rate camera with no editing capabilities than £600 for a second rate camera with the ability to run Photoshop Elements.
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Posted 09/02/2007 - 17:00
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I could be wrong, but I think you may all have gone off on the wrong tangent.
kcmadr asked about Multi-exposure not braketing. i.e. picking a previous shot say a landscape, selecting it for a multiple exposure and then taking a picture of the moon over the top of it. Nothing to do with braketing.
To be honest multi-exposure has to be the least used feature I have ever had on a camera and even more so since digital (just combine them in photoshop and have a better chance of getting the placement right!), but I think this was the original question.
kcmadr asked about Multi-exposure not braketing. i.e. picking a previous shot say a landscape, selecting it for a multiple exposure and then taking a picture of the moon over the top of it. Nothing to do with braketing.
To be honest multi-exposure has to be the least used feature I have ever had on a camera and even more so since digital (just combine them in photoshop and have a better chance of getting the placement right!), but I think this was the original question.
Posted 09/02/2007 - 17:05
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To be honest multi-exposure has to be the least used feature I have ever had on a camera and even more so since digital (just combine them in photoshop and have a better chance of getting the placement right!), but I think this was the original question.
I agree completely. Being able to do it on the camera is kinda cool, but the result of doing it in photoshop is likely to be better.
To be honest multi-exposure has to be the least used feature I have ever had on a camera and even more so since digital (just combine them in photoshop and have a better chance of getting the placement right!), but I think this was the original question.
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Multi-Exposure mode - Add capability to multi-expose pre-existing shots. Browse and select the photo you wish to "add" to, then shoot.