Lightroom 4 AND Photoshop?

That's assuming Lightroom creates a JPEG to the spec we want. Are there adjustable parameters for specifying levels and sharpening?

You can select the sharpening to be applied on output. Why would you want to adjust levels?

All part of the process of preparing and fine tuning an image for presenting to the world. Levels is a powerful way of adjusting brightness and contrast, as is Curves.

Sharpening can also be fine tuned for a particular image, not necessarily globally.

It depends how much control we want over the final result.

Yes, but John, all that has been done beforehand for each image. Why would you want to do that on output?

All the publishing process does is convert your already processed images to jpegs, with a sharpening for output to screen if you so desire, and then send it all to Flickr.

It in no way replaces the fine adjustments that you have described that have been done previously in Develop.

Not at all. I don't have Flickr and I'm one of those whose brain closes down after opening LR up. I was determined to get to grips with it and downloaded the trial Ver 4 but it just slowed my computer down so much I uninstalled it. Found out later there was a cache setting to set that may have helped with that. I can import and export ok but on exporting I have to type in where I want the output stored and I soon got fed up with that.
If I import from a directory I'd like to export to the same directory with perhaps the option of a new folder, not have to browse to where I want to be each time. am sure it's a very good program, it is reassuringly expensive Now I await the How To ( for 3.x )

At the risk of us sounding repetetive () you don't have to type in the folder where you want it to go, unless it's a new location. You can choose the "same folder as original" (which is just an option), or a specific folder. You can also specify a subfolder if you want to.

Next......

@ darkskies

OK and thank you for not shouting at me

I must really have a proper look at this program as it seems a lot of the members whose work I admire use it.

That's assuming that converting to JPEG needs no further input from the photographer, but, depending on image size required, the amount of sharpening, for example, will vary, as will the parameters for that sharpening.

I think you're describing things from the point of view of an entirely different workflow. I've got six articles here on PU that describe a very simple workflow and which summarise what I might do. See the articles section and you'll know straight away if we're talking about different approaches.

You can create export presets containing several parameters, including sharpening, max or min image size, compression levels, etc,etc

Hi John,

As smeggy has indicated, you can crate export presets, or you can set compression, image size, sharpening individually and manually.

However, I started talking about exporting photos to Flickr, in which case I am talking about sending full size (after any cropping) at 100% quality. And so I can virtually be assured that any initial set up will suffice for the vast majority of shots, hence the ease of use.

I'm afraid I can't check if we are using totally different workflows by reading the articles as I am not a User Plus subscriber. What I would be interested in, though, is how your sharpening differs for different sizes of images.

Rather than hijack this thread I'll start a new thread on the subject later on tonight.

Thanks, John. good idea.

right.( no CAPS as someone complained about them}. to me lightroom4 is so good, why would you need to use anything else.( this is fun not using CAPS). slightly dislexic anyway. unless you want to warp a piccy into to something you did not take?it must be a bad picture to then go on to photoshop.that was what i was getting at.for some reason i am attracted to photos of the sun straight at me. liightroom4 helps recover the blown out highlights and the under exposed ? low lights.

highjacked? the whole thing has turned into a lightroom versus photoshop thing. not what i intended as the ( to use the slang) OP.

To add to my earlier comment on ACDSee Pro 6 - yes I have used Lightroom and do not deny that it is a first rate program, but I prefer the former since it uses the existing file and directory structure without any need for action on the part of the user to import or export. The database is updated either by using a catalogue or more reliably by instructing the program to embed the catalogue data into each file's metadata and as with Lightroom you can very easily export an image from the program to an external one such as PSE. My point is that post processing does not begin and end with Adobe products - there are quite a few alternatives that people might prefer - Capture One, Corel After shot pro are further examples.