K3 receives unsolicited compliment


Ke1th

Link Posted 12/04/2015 - 13:33
I took the k3 plus Sigma lenses off to London for a bit of gig photography. As always, I sent the pics to the artists (both featuring a "name" form the 60s)) and one of them asked for the hi-res photos. His response on seeing these was: "You must have one helluva camera to capture such detailed shots in one of the most difficult photo environments" and I thought - yes, I do!

Jonathan-Mac

Link Posted 12/04/2015 - 15:49
Always nice to hear a compliment, even if it's for the camera rather than the photographer.

Any examples to show us?
Pentax hybrid user - Digital K3 & K200D, film 645 and 35mm SLR and Pentax (&other) lenses adapted to Fuji X digital
Fan of DA limited and old manual lenses

Ke1th

Link Posted 12/04/2015 - 22:22
Is this the sort of example?

This is a 100% crop and was originally shot as DNG and played with in Lightroom 5. Taken with the K3 plus Sigma 70-200mm f2.8.

The gory details are 1/40th sec at f2.8, ISO 3200 and the lens was set at 98mm


McGregNi

Link Posted 12/04/2015 - 22:29
Non-photographers often react to seeing a photo of mine with ... 'gee, you must have a really good camera !' Yes I do, but I wish they could understand that its the photographer as well!!

No doubt your K3 performed admirably there .... with the low light autofocus ability it should be an ideal tool.
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richandfleur

Link Posted 13/04/2015 - 05:36
McGregNi wrote:
Non-photographers often react to seeing a photo of mine with ... 'gee, you must have a really good camera !'







But then by the same token:

Last Edited by richandfleur on 13/04/2015 - 05:37

Smeggypants

Link Posted 13/04/2015 - 06:42
richandfleur wrote:
McGregNi wrote:
Non-photographers often react to seeing a photo of mine with ... 'gee, you must have a really good camera !'







But then by the same token:


hehe
[i]Bodies: 1x K-5IIs, 2x K-5, Sony TX-5, Nokia 808
Lenses: Pentax DA 10-17mm ED(IF) Fish Eye, Pentax DA 14mm f/2.8, Sigma 17-70mm f/2.8, Pentax-A 28mm f/2.8, Sigma 30mm F1.4 EX DC, Pentax-A 50mm f/1.2, Pentax-A 50mm f/1.4, Pentax-FA 50mm f/1.4, Pentax-A 50mm f/1.7, Pentax DA* 50-135mm f/2.8, Sigma 135-400mm APO DG, and more ..
Flash: AF-540FGZ, Vivitar 283

RobL

Link Posted 13/04/2015 - 08:16
Conversely, produce an slr and people EXPECT you to produce great photos! My white K50 really impressed the crowd at a party ("like something out of Star Wars!")

richandfleur

Link Posted 13/04/2015 - 08:41
Someone recently asked me how we got our backgrounds fuzzy. I thought that was an excellent question, as it showed they'd seen and identified something they liked but didn't know how to reproduce. Led to a conversation on Aperture/Av settings and how to maximise the capabilities of the gear they had. Focus Peaking in live view was an excellent demo by the way, showing the in focus area moving along a wooden bench in real time as I turned the focus ring.

(rant mode on) personal beef of mine at the moment is the wedding photography fad of insanely narrow depth of field. Makes for a highlighted bridesmaid and everyone else in the shot out of focus. FF will increase the Pentax ability in this area, but often I feel the shot would have been just as good, if not better really, if a bit more of it was in focus. (rant mode off )

There are times where a compact with a good sensor/lens combo will beat a DSLR with an average lens, and it's worth remembering that I think. The interchangeable nature of the lenses is a plus, but is a big minus if you have to buy quality lenses at multiple focal lengths. (ie freakin expensive potentially).
Last Edited by richandfleur on 13/04/2015 - 08:43

McGregNi

Link Posted 13/04/2015 - 10:37
Whenever I've been asked about the out of focus background thing by someone with a compact or bridge camera, invariably I find that the only way to get any effect worthwhile for demonstration is to stand way back and zoom in to maximum on the subject. Plus you need to isolate the subject from the surrounds, as well as set the widest aperture.

Even when there are manual aperture controls it doesn't seem to have much effect. I question whether these sort of cameras are any good for beginners at all, as you can be changing things and trying but not seeing real differences as a result.

Plus, the maximum zooming has consequences to manage as well, usually camera shake issues and often I find exposure problems, all of which our beginner is scarcely prepared to cope with. It all adds up to frustration, and no learning.
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Pentax K7 with BG-4 Grip / Samyang 14mm f2.8 ED AS IF UMC / DA18-55mm f3.5-5.6 AL WR / SMC A28mm f2.8 / D FA 28-105mm / SMC F35-70 f3.5-4.5 / SMC A50mm f1.7 / Tamron AF70-300mm f4-5.6 Di LD macro / SMC M75-150mm f4.0 / Tamron Adaptall (CT-135) 135mm f2.8 / Asahi Takumar-A 2X tele-converter / Pentax AF-540FGZ (I & II) Flashes / Cactus RF60/X Flashes & V6/V6II Transceiver
Last Edited by McGregNi on 13/04/2015 - 10:40

johnriley

Link Posted 13/04/2015 - 12:47
It's a problem with small formats Nigel. It's quite difficult to get reduced DOF.

For an extreme example, the standard lens for the Minox "spy camera" is a 15mm, which has DOF from 1 foot to infinity at f/3.5
Best regards, John

McGregNi

Link Posted 13/04/2015 - 14:00
Yes, that would need rather a wide aperture to see much out of focus!

I often speak to work colleagues who are wanting to get better photographs, but who instead of reading a good book about it and investing in a quality DSLR system, choose instead to buy what they see as a very sophisticated all-in-one bridge type camera with a fixed superzoom. They don't understand the technology or physics behind what the camera is capable of and so fail to realise the limitations. Their expectations are way too high, and they seem to believe that because it is the latest with all the high tech that they can just press the button and get results in the most demanding conditions!

This inevitably leads to disappointment and the realisation that 'i needed to spend a lot of money'. I say, yes, a good system will cost more at the start, but can build into all you need. But I still keep pushing the book reading part of it, as ultimately it is the fruits of more understanding that will yield the results they want.
My Guides to the Pentax Digital Camera Flash Lighting System : Download here from the PentaxForums Homepage Article .... link
Pentax K7 with BG-4 Grip / Samyang 14mm f2.8 ED AS IF UMC / DA18-55mm f3.5-5.6 AL WR / SMC A28mm f2.8 / D FA 28-105mm / SMC F35-70 f3.5-4.5 / SMC A50mm f1.7 / Tamron AF70-300mm f4-5.6 Di LD macro / SMC M75-150mm f4.0 / Tamron Adaptall (CT-135) 135mm f2.8 / Asahi Takumar-A 2X tele-converter / Pentax AF-540FGZ (I & II) Flashes / Cactus RF60/X Flashes & V6/V6II Transceiver

jemx99

Link Posted 13/04/2015 - 20:18
My son has a certain make bridge camera with a super zoom - must say I'm amazed by his results - he doesn't faff about with gear etc like me - he just points and shoots. The quality is excellent, exposure very good and the cameras shake reduction does a great job, his hand held pictures of the moon or aircraft are very good. Also not everyone wants to delve that deeply into buying kit and learning techniques, some people just want to take reasonably decent but easy shots.

McGregNi

Link Posted 13/04/2015 - 22:32
But he's clearly not a beginner, someone with unrealistic expectations from the technology. If he's getting good results then he must know how to work with the camera and use it to the full, even if thats instinctive. I'd assume he must have a natural approach to shooting technique also .... I'm really talking about people who have seen professional images in glossy publications, and maybe advertising material, and expect that they will be able to 'point and shoot' with no learning involved and achieve similar results, just because they have bought the latest high tech.
My Guides to the Pentax Digital Camera Flash Lighting System : Download here from the PentaxForums Homepage Article .... link
Pentax K7 with BG-4 Grip / Samyang 14mm f2.8 ED AS IF UMC / DA18-55mm f3.5-5.6 AL WR / SMC A28mm f2.8 / D FA 28-105mm / SMC F35-70 f3.5-4.5 / SMC A50mm f1.7 / Tamron AF70-300mm f4-5.6 Di LD macro / SMC M75-150mm f4.0 / Tamron Adaptall (CT-135) 135mm f2.8 / Asahi Takumar-A 2X tele-converter / Pentax AF-540FGZ (I & II) Flashes / Cactus RF60/X Flashes & V6/V6II Transceiver
Last Edited by McGregNi on 13/04/2015 - 22:33

Hullman

Link Posted 14/04/2015 - 06:53
When people say "that's an amazing picture, you must have a great camera" I often ask how many people eat Gordon Ramsey's restaraunt and say "that's an amazing dish, you must have a great oven"
FF: Pentax K-1, D-FA* 70-200, D-FA 24-70, D-FA 100, D-FA 28-105, FA 77, FA 43
APSC: K3, K5, DA*50-135, DA*300, Sigma 17-50, Sigma 10-20, 18-55mm, DA 55-300mm, DA35, 1.4TC
4/3: Q10, Q, 01, 02, 06
Fuji XT1, XF18-55, XF27

richandfleur

Link Posted 14/04/2015 - 09:13
Hullman wrote:
When people say "that's an amazing picture, you must have a great camera" I often ask how many people eat Gordon Ramsey's restaraunt and say "that's an amazing dish, you must have a great oven"

Oh that's good
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