K10D Focus Adjustment

Mongoose
Posted 15/08/2013 - 14:55 Link
the wide max aperture should make it easier to spot an issue
you don't have to be mad to post here



but it does help
stevejcoe
Posted 15/08/2013 - 14:55 - Helpful Comment Link
Mongoose wrote:
thanks Steve that's good to know, I'll probably still try both types of light but if I can't get a consistant reading under tungsten I'll know why!

don't suppose you'd be interested in outlining your tightly controlled and robust process to save us re-inventing the wheel?
I am away from home at the moment, so I only have phone to hand, but basically.

Use a tripod
Delayed shutter release, us remote.
Use the lens wide open.
Take a least 5 shots manually turning the focusing ring to different positions between shots.
For a zoom lens repeat at different focal lengths. Some lenses FF at one end and BF at the other.

View the results on your PC screen. Decide whether the lens is front , or back focusing and a

djust accordingly. I usually make a large adjustment repeat the excercise several times progressively making fine adjustments until I am happy with the results.

Alternatively, if you have a macro slide rail there is an alternative method that if I remember Algernon has described.

Finally don't forget to take some real world pictures, before deciding on your final setting.

Regard Steve
Father Ted
Posted 15/08/2013 - 20:45 - Helpful Comment Link
OK, Well I've got as far as getting into debug mode and viewing the relevant menus. I don't think I'll have the time to do this properly before I go away ( Saturday), but at least I know the principle works.

One thing I did find is that a small instruction is missing on that second link.
Create a file in Notepad called MODSET.TX
Then in the file just one line [OPEN_DEBUG_MENU] then hit ENTER

It won't work if you don't hit enter.
Getting there! Thanks to you guys

Pentax K3ii, Pentax K10d, Kit lens ( 18-55mm ), 50mm f1.7 lens, Tamron 70-300mm lens, Prinzflex 70-162 manual lens, Various old flashes.
Father Ted
Posted 16/08/2013 - 20:56 Link
I had a quick fiddle tonight. I concentrated on the Tamron 70 - 300mm and the Pentax 28 - 80mm lenses as they are what I most often use with this camera.
I had to apply +200um.
It has made the world of difference!
I can't test properly as the light has gone, but the couple I took outside in the low light are much better. The 28-80 still doesn't focus to infinity at 28mm, but it's near as damn it.

I'll play some more when I get back off holiday.
Getting there! Thanks to you guys

Pentax K3ii, Pentax K10d, Kit lens ( 18-55mm ), 50mm f1.7 lens, Tamron 70-300mm lens, Prinzflex 70-162 manual lens, Various old flashes.
Smeggypants
Posted 16/08/2013 - 21:02 Link
Mongoose wrote:
thanks Steve that's good to know, I'll probably still try both types of light but if I can't get a consistant reading under tungsten I'll know why!

don't suppose you'd be interested in outlining your tightly controlled and robust process to save us re-inventing the wheel?
Adjusting AF isn't going to fix tungsten inconsistencies, but it's better to be inconsistent around the actual focus point rather than somewhere behind or in front.

Do your AF tweaks in daylight.
[i]Bodies: 1x K-5IIs, 2x K-5, Sony TX-5, Nokia 808
Lenses: Pentax DA 10-17mm ED(IF) Fish Eye, Pentax DA 14mm f/2.8, Sigma 17-70mm f/2.8, Pentax-A 28mm f/2.8, Sigma 30mm F1.4 EX DC, Pentax-A 50mm f/1.2, Pentax-A 50mm f/1.4, Pentax-FA 50mm f/1.4, Pentax-A 50mm f/1.7, Pentax DA* 50-135mm f/2.8, Sigma 135-400mm APO DG, and more ..
Flash: AF-540FGZ, Vivitar 283
Smeggypants
Posted 16/08/2013 - 21:07 Link
stevejcoe wrote:
Mongoose wrote:
thanks Steve that's good to know, I'll probably still try both types of light but if I can't get a consistant reading under tungsten I'll know why!

don't suppose you'd be interested in outlining your tightly controlled and robust process to save us re-inventing the wheel?
I am away from home at the moment, so I only have phone to hand, but basically.

Use a tripod
Delayed shutter release, us remote.
Use the lens wide open.
Take a least 5 shots manually turning the focusing ring to different positions between shots.
For a zoom lens repeat at different focal lengths. Some lenses FF at one end and BF at the other.

View the results on your PC screen. Decide whether the lens is front , or back focusing and a

djust accordingly. I usually make a large adjustment repeat the excercise several times progressively making fine adjustments until I am happy with the results.

Alternatively, if you have a macro slide rail there is an alternative method that if I remember Algernon has described.

Finally don't forget to take some real world pictures, before deciding on your final setting.

Regard Steve
Don't understand what you mean by that : :

For manual lenses take a number of shots where you've achieved by moving the focus ring from way OOF to what the camera says is focus confirmation for each shot

For AF lenses take a number of shots by letting the AF try to achieve focus from either infinity or nearest focus distance, preferably both.

then ... note any front or back focussing and adjust accordingly
[i]Bodies: 1x K-5IIs, 2x K-5, Sony TX-5, Nokia 808
Lenses: Pentax DA 10-17mm ED(IF) Fish Eye, Pentax DA 14mm f/2.8, Sigma 17-70mm f/2.8, Pentax-A 28mm f/2.8, Sigma 30mm F1.4 EX DC, Pentax-A 50mm f/1.2, Pentax-A 50mm f/1.4, Pentax-FA 50mm f/1.4, Pentax-A 50mm f/1.7, Pentax DA* 50-135mm f/2.8, Sigma 135-400mm APO DG, and more ..
Flash: AF-540FGZ, Vivitar 283
stevejcoe
Posted 16/08/2013 - 21:36 Link
Quote:
Don't understand what you mean by that
Typed on the move basically I meant to say move the focus ring manually between taking AF shots.

Regards Steve
Father Ted
Posted 16/08/2013 - 22:08 Link
stevejcoe wrote:
Quote:
Don't understand what you mean by that
Typed on the move basically I meant to say move the focus ring manually between taking AF shots.

Regards Steve
That's what i was doing, to force it to re-focus, rather than let it "remember" where it was.
Getting there! Thanks to you guys

Pentax K3ii, Pentax K10d, Kit lens ( 18-55mm ), 50mm f1.7 lens, Tamron 70-300mm lens, Prinzflex 70-162 manual lens, Various old flashes.
Smeggypants
Posted 16/08/2013 - 23:36 Link
stevejcoe wrote:
Quote:
Don't understand what you mean by that
Typed on the move basically I meant to say move the focus ring manually between taking AF shots.

Regards Steve
Gotcha

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[i]Bodies: 1x K-5IIs, 2x K-5, Sony TX-5, Nokia 808
Lenses: Pentax DA 10-17mm ED(IF) Fish Eye, Pentax DA 14mm f/2.8, Sigma 17-70mm f/2.8, Pentax-A 28mm f/2.8, Sigma 30mm F1.4 EX DC, Pentax-A 50mm f/1.2, Pentax-A 50mm f/1.4, Pentax-FA 50mm f/1.4, Pentax-A 50mm f/1.7, Pentax DA* 50-135mm f/2.8, Sigma 135-400mm APO DG, and more ..
Flash: AF-540FGZ, Vivitar 283

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