Just noticed

hkwiles
Posted 08/09/2009 - 10:26 Link
Looking at all the competition , I have just noticed how similar the layout of the control and buttons and switches are to the Nikon D300. Seems in true marketing fashion the Pentax guys have taken the best features from the other manufacturers , the best specc and combined woth their own feedback.

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Edited by hkwiles: 08/09/2009 - 10:27
MattMatic
Posted 08/09/2009 - 10:45 Link
...or they all arrived at separate similar conclusions about what works and what doesn't

After all, as far as I know, all dSLR users have human hands - and that tends to define the optimum design
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Edited by MattMatic: 08/09/2009 - 10:46
hkwiles
Posted 08/09/2009 - 11:40 Link
did Canon come to different conclusion then LoL

Im talking about little things like position of ISO button , front and rear thumbwheel , AF switch.

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Thordell
Posted 08/09/2009 - 12:13 Link
Think like cars of today, you put the requirements into a computer and design with the answers you get - as peoples hands are alike you are likely to find manufactures coming up with similar ideas - would be very surprised if the body that has a reputation for being ergonomically excellent would bother themselves looking elsewhere at bodies that are and have been criticized for their difficult in use.
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George Lazarette
Posted 08/09/2009 - 12:23 Link
Pentax and Nikon cameras are designed by human being for human beings.

Canons, of course, are designed by robots. I wouldn't presume to hazard a guess at their target market.

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fatspider
Posted 08/09/2009 - 13:40 Link
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I wouldn't presume to hazard a guess at their target market
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lemmy
Posted 08/09/2009 - 17:19 Link
George Lazarette wrote:
Pentax and Nikon cameras are designed by human being for human beings.
Canons, of course, are designed by robots. I wouldn't presume to hazard a guess at their target market.
I don't think Canon need your guess - they manage to grab 40% of the total market by themselves
fatspider
Posted 08/09/2009 - 18:17 Link
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I don't think Canon need your guess - they manage to grab 40% of the total market by themselves
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hkwiles
Posted 08/09/2009 - 19:40 Link
lemmy wrote:
George Lazarette wrote:
Pentax and Nikon cameras are designed by human being for human beings.
Canons, of course, are designed by robots. I wouldn't presume to hazard a guess at their target market.
I don't think Canon need your guess - they manage to grab 40% of the total market by themselves
So do Ford ! but I aint swopping my BMW for one !.

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Father Ted
Posted 08/09/2009 - 21:31 Link
hkwiles wrote:



So do Ford ! but I aint swopping my BMW for one !.

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lemmy
Posted 08/09/2009 - 23:22 Link
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I don't think Canon need your guess - they manage to grab 40% of the total market by themselves
Quote:
So do Ford ! but I aint swopping my BMW for one !.
Howard
If Pentax's market share was 30% of Canon's, as BMW's is of Ford, Pentax would be as viable as BMW.

Also, Pentax's problem is that Canon and Nikon are seen as more prestigious in the market place. Through brilliant marketing, BMW, in reality yet another European mass car producer, is seen as more prestigious than many other makers.

How about giving up your Pentax for a Ford, then?
jackitec
Posted 08/09/2009 - 23:29 Link
They all steal ideas from each other
hkwiles
Posted 09/09/2009 - 08:07 Link
Father Ted wrote:
hkwiles wrote:



So do Ford ! but I aint swopping my BMW for one !.

Howard
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lemmy wrote:
Quote:
I don't think Canon need your guess - they manage to grab 40% of the total market by themselves
Quote:
So do Ford ! but I aint swopping my BMW for one !.
Howard
If Pentax's market share was 30% of Canon's, as BMW's is of Ford, Pentax would be as viable as BMW.

Also, Pentax's problem is that Canon and Nikon are seen as more prestigious in the market place. Through brilliant marketing, BMW, in reality yet another European mass car producer, is seen as more prestigious than many other makers.

How about giving up your Pentax for a Ford, then?
but it IS a more prestigiuos car .

I think I would see Pentax as the Skoda to Canon as the Audi.

Same if not better , but certainly better value.

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Edited by hkwiles: 09/09/2009 - 08:10
Pwynnej
Posted 09/09/2009 - 09:11 Link
hkwiles wrote:
[I think I would see Pentax as the Skoda to Canon as the Audi.

No, no, no, no, No.

pentax = Saab.

Neglected by parent company (Hoya/GM), limited market share, small product portfolio, left-field thinking, yet still a renowned producer...

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lemmy
Posted 09/09/2009 - 09:16 Link
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but it IS a more prestigiuos car .
I think I would see Pentax as the Skoda to Canon as the Audi.
Same if not better , but certainly better value.
Howard
I've never quite got the prestige thing with cars, they all seem a form of(very expensive)white goods to me.

I agree about the cameras and of course Skoda was taken from being an also ran in the car market to a contender. It'd be nice if Pentax could do the same thing but I doubt it.

Of course, my Samsung has much less 'prestige' than a Pentax but at £299 I can handle the shame

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