Honeymoon Help!

Yeah thats what im going do anyway. Much prefer kids to have a brilliant holiday and us a good one than other way round.

I might have a look at canary islands , most possibly fuerteventura as its good weather in november, not too far away, cheapish and with my budget could afford to go all inclusive and 5* hotel probbaly.

The Caribbean can be wet in November - I believe it is something like a 50% chance of rain every afternoon. Can you imagine half the afternoons being wet?

In the Canary Islands they get 35% of te annual rainfall in Novemeber.

Flights to the Caribbean tend to be day flights - Cape Town is overnight so wear the kids out during the day and they are gone for the flight!

What does your other half like? Animals, scenery, beaches, mountains, remote areas, wine? Tell me and I'll try to find a couple of persuasive pictures.

Didnt realise about the rainfall!

My partner likes animals, scenery, beaches, mountains but not wine and not remote areas.

Cant show her pics as its supposed to be a suprise remember

Time to educate her, then.

G

If you're looking at the canaries, have a look at Madeira as well, its close, so weather should be the same, and it is also not too expensive.
In Canarias you'll have better beaches I think, Madeira is greener and colourful.

You can also put a bit of self interest in it. Go to a stunning place you'd like to photograph. Of course you're not taking the gear now, but in a few years you have the best excuse to suggest going there again, very romantic of you...
Kidding.

But if they are on here you could be flicking through and say "it's amazing how someone can get this close to an elephant, cheetah, tiger"

Just added a picture of the beach at Noordhoek.

It is empty, mainly because it was a work day ...

There are many more like that or if you want the commercialised beaches they can be found too.

Every sub-Saharan country is slipping backwards. Unchecked population growth is leading to desertification (not a good word) and habitat destruction, so the game is disappearing. Standards are dropping in every area, whether it's healthcare, roads, justice, or whatever. Recent economic problems are making things worse.

Everybody should see the great wild animals of Africa in their natural habitat; it is an experience like no other. But the sooner the better. Animals and habitat won't be around much longer. When I was young in Kenya rhinos were two a penny. Now, they have almost all gone.

Bill Gates should stop giving money to Cambridge colleges and buy a large tract of Tanzania instead (perhaps the Selous reserve), fence it securely, and create a land ark.

G

I can vouch for South Africa (Especially Franscheok, beautiful place) and Santorini, both would be excellent places to go. I know a photographer in the Western Cape http://www.hougaardmalan.com/, so you can check there to see how good the scenery is.

Its just a case of finding things for the children to do I guess. What about Disney World

Franschhoek ...

I know the place like the back of my hand. Where have you stayed there?

Excellent restaurants - at sensible prices with fresh food.

Great walks in the mountains - on the pass running south to the coast is a one day walk up a mountain and back. Take a picnic for the summit and you get scenery, flora, wildlife - animals and birds and no crowds.

And there is a great diamond dealer there - who knows me well.

How about a cruise?
The Caribbean is good that time of year and the ship entertainment crew will take the kids off your hands.
The change in scenery from day to day is varied and prices are all-in except for shore tours.

Thought of a cruise but worry about kids going overboard

It has all gone quiet - have you gone on holiday already, Cloudhunter?

For a honeymoon, what would you prefer. A nice quiet "hotel" with just a few other guests where the management and staff would really take care of you OR a standard eurubox room where you are just another number and no one cares?

Have a real serious look at S Africa, combine, good scenery, beaches, food, relaxation, nice people and value for money.

If you want to be persuaded - you could give me a call. There is too much down there to put in posts here. My daughter was 7 when we first took her 12 years ago and we have never looked back. Others we have met out there have had 2, 3, 4, 5 year olds with no problems.

A lot depends on how much you want to spend of course.
You could do a fantastic family safari to either Kenya or Tanzania with a few days R&R in Zanzibar or on the coast afterwards.

La Palma in the Canaries has greenery, mountains, dolphins, peace and quiet, but only a couple of black beaches. We have been there in November. it rained at night but was lovely during the day. If you go try staying on the West side of the island as it is drier warmer ans just all together nicer.

Florida is an idea, though it is the tail end of Hurricane season, which would also affect the Caribbean. If you want to go that way what about Cuba before the yanks get there?
Arizona and New Mexico will be good in November - Grand Canyon, wild life, mountains, desert lots to see and do.
Southern California - enough amusement parks to keep the kids happy with scenery, wild life and warmth.