Holiday shots Raw ofr Jpeg
Posted 18/06/2009 - 13:48
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RAW for me, always. Memory cards are cheap (and usually easy to find if you do run short) and it's not as if you can go back easily to get that shot you "missed" - at least with RAW it may well be recoverable
John
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Posted 18/06/2009 - 13:52
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It depends on how much you prefer RAW, and how much storage space you will have.
RAW should be no problems if you have loads of large memory cards, or can upload the files to a hard drive via a computer or some other device.
RAW should be no problems if you have loads of large memory cards, or can upload the files to a hard drive via a computer or some other device.
~Pete
Posted 18/06/2009 - 14:29
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I shot everything RAW while away for four weeks. I had plenty of 4gb cards and an image tank. I did buy one more card whilst I was away, so that I didn't need to delete photos from a any card. Wouldn't have been a problem with them on the image tank as well, but it just gave me a better feeling knowing I had them all double.
The biggest downside is the processing of thousands of images when you return home. I am still not finished with them.
The biggest downside is the processing of thousands of images when you return home. I am still not finished with them.
Posted 18/06/2009 - 15:10
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JPEG for virtually everything. Convenience to just get on with the images without messing about with converting plus a quality level which is so good that it really makes no practical difference.
Some of our best photographers at ADAPS shoot in JPEG and their prints are stunning.
Some of our best photographers at ADAPS shoot in JPEG and their prints are stunning.
Best regards, John
Posted 18/06/2009 - 15:34
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As we've discussed before, RAW does make a practical difference with certain post processing, particularly when the image is much under or over exposed. That is mainly what it's for, rather than images that are excellent to start with.
~Pete
Posted 18/06/2009 - 16:02
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RAW all the time I've never used jpeg for years now
Posted 18/06/2009 - 16:16
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I now only shoot RAW now. When using Lightroom you don't even notice that there is a conversion stage! Almost everything is done in Lightroom (levels, colour, curves, dust spotting, cropping and straightening) and then I export the lot when I have finished tweaking them. Even the work in CS3 is from a file exported from Lightroom and then automatically updated within it and then exported as a jpeg of the right size. As Pete says, for unproblematic photos I doubt there is much to be gained but with difficult shots (either ones I have messed up taking or ones with a wide dynamic range) RAW seems to work better than jpeg.
I suspect that John does an extremely good job in camera which means he doesn't need the safety net of RAW. One of the reasons I still shoot a bit of film is to stop myself becoming even lazier!
Best wishes, Kris.
I suspect that John does an extremely good job in camera which means he doesn't need the safety net of RAW. One of the reasons I still shoot a bit of film is to stop myself becoming even lazier!
Best wishes, Kris.
Kris Lockyear
It is an illusion that photos are made with the camera… they are made with the eye, heart and head. Henri Cartier-Bresson
Lots of film bodies, a couple of digital ones, too many lenses (mainly older glass) and a Horseman LE 5x4.
It is an illusion that photos are made with the camera… they are made with the eye, heart and head. Henri Cartier-Bresson
Lots of film bodies, a couple of digital ones, too many lenses (mainly older glass) and a Horseman LE 5x4.
Posted 19/06/2009 - 10:18
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Agree with John. The quality of JPEG is good enough for me most of the time, saving all the hassle of converting from RAW and saving a lot of disk space (and don't throw me the "disk space is cheap nowadays").
Larger files do slow down your system unless you have a super duper top-of-the-range computer and graphic card.
Larger files do slow down your system unless you have a super duper top-of-the-range computer and graphic card.
Best regards
Terry
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Terry
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Posted 19/06/2009 - 10:24
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I'm also in the RAW camp. JPEGs are superb, but because I convert most of my shots to mono I find I get more control over contrast and tonal range and find it much easier to boost shadows when necessary.
(Yes, I've spent too much time in ver dark rooms!)
(Yes, I've spent too much time in ver dark rooms!)
Posted 19/06/2009 - 10:25
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I agree with Womble. There's virtually no hassle to converting RAW beyond any adjustment you would do to JPEGs anyway, and, well, disk space is cheap!
It's true it's not so suitable for an old low-power computer, but the cheapest modern PCs are up to the job. It's not even a problem for my laptop - which is near the bottom of the DELL range.
It's true it's not so suitable for an old low-power computer, but the cheapest modern PCs are up to the job. It's not even a problem for my laptop - which is near the bottom of the DELL range.
~Pete
Posted 19/06/2009 - 10:47
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RAW + JPG
Then if you want to show them to someone or do a full screen viewing whilst away you only need a basic PC and no processing software.
My PC always goes with me - work reasons and I will copy to the PC and burn a CD/DVD too.
Then if you want to show them to someone or do a full screen viewing whilst away you only need a basic PC and no processing software.
My PC always goes with me - work reasons and I will copy to the PC and burn a CD/DVD too.
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K20D, *istD, MZ-S, Super-A, ME Super, MX
DA* 16-50, DA* 50-135, DA* 300,
DA 50-200, FA 24-90, FA 20-35,
M 400-600, A 50 f1.4, A 28 f2.8, A 70-210, M 35-80, M 50 f1.7
A x2S teleconverter and a few others ...
K20D, *istD, MZ-S, Super-A, ME Super, MX
DA* 16-50, DA* 50-135, DA* 300,
DA 50-200, FA 24-90, FA 20-35,
M 400-600, A 50 f1.4, A 28 f2.8, A 70-210, M 35-80, M 50 f1.7
A x2S teleconverter and a few others ...
Posted 19/06/2009 - 12:59
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iceblinker wrote:
It's true it's not so suitable for an old low-power computer, but the cheapest modern PCs are up to the job. It's not even a problem for my laptop - which is near the bottom of the DELL range.
I guess we could have an argument ad infinitum about performance.It's true it's not so suitable for an old low-power computer, but the cheapest modern PCs are up to the job. It's not even a problem for my laptop - which is near the bottom of the DELL range.
My stationary computer runs a Core2Quad processor on 4 GByte of RAM and has a high-end GeForce graphic card. There is a noticeable difference in loading JPEGs versus RAW files in Photoshop Elements. I doesn't run slow, but JPEGs are much quicker anyway, and I want things to happen at the press of a button, if not earlier
Best regards
Terry
K20D, Optio I10, DA 18-55 1:3.5-5.6 AL II, A 1:1.7/50, D FA 1:2.8/100 Macro, Sigma 70-300 1:4-5.6 APO DG Macro, Pentax AF 360FGZ
Terry
K20D, Optio I10, DA 18-55 1:3.5-5.6 AL II, A 1:1.7/50, D FA 1:2.8/100 Macro, Sigma 70-300 1:4-5.6 APO DG Macro, Pentax AF 360FGZ
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