hands on kp @ srs
Posted 12/02/2017 - 11:35
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richandfleur wrote:
...Issue I can see with the KP is that it's priced really high for what's close to a K-70 internals...
This is an important observation and I agree. It's not that prices are going up, it's the price of the new model compared with other Pentax models. I think the KP is a very good mid-range camera and I want it to succeed, but can it do so at almost double the price of the K-70 which is also a very good camera (SRS £1099 v. £559)?...Issue I can see with the KP is that it's priced really high for what's close to a K-70 internals...
Cheers.
Philip
Posted 12/02/2017 - 12:02
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It's not the companies putting their prices up, it's to do with the drop in the dollar exchange rates, or that's what they'll blame!
John K
Posted 12/02/2017 - 12:10
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Any company importing from the Far East or the USA using the dollar will have seen their cost base hit by a round 18% against the GBP , you can't absorb those sort of costs without having to increase your prices.
Chris
www.chrismillsphotography.co.uk
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Samyang 14mm F2.8, Pentax DFA* 70-200 F2.8, Pentax A 50mm F1.2
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" A Hangover is something that occupies the Head you neglected to use the night before".
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K1 - Sigma 85mm F1.4, Pentax DFA 150 -450 F4.5 / 5.6, Pentax DFA* 24 - 70 F2.8
Samyang 14mm F2.8, Pentax DFA* 70-200 F2.8, Pentax A 50mm F1.2
K3iii + K3ii + K5iis converted to IR, Sigma 17 - 70 F2.8, Pentax 55 - 300 F4.5 / F5.6 PLM
Posted 12/02/2017 - 13:09
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yeah but, if I am not wrong, Pentax already increased the prices few weeks after brexit. The k1 was originally at 1599 and now it's possible to find it at that price only with deals. Same goes for the lenses, therefore the prices were already aligned with the weak pound.
Posted 12/02/2017 - 13:21
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but there's no reason why a dslr couldn't have an off centre electronic viewfinder also.
With the mirror up, a dslr is in 'mirrorless mode'. With on sensor phase detect AF points in the K-70, smart tracking options could be implemented like many mirrorless cameras offer.
If the same lens mount is used, then mirrorless and dslrs have more in common than they are different really.
Issue I can see with the KP is that it's priced really high for what's close to a K-70 internals. It doesn't have the k-3 1/8000 shutter etc and I think you are paying a lot for the 'retro' casing, which I personally don't mind the look of.
If you replaced the optical viewfinder with an electric viewfinder that would remove the need for the mirror and you would end up with mirrorless camera instead of a DSLR!but there's no reason why a dslr couldn't have an off centre electronic viewfinder also.
With the mirror up, a dslr is in 'mirrorless mode'. With on sensor phase detect AF points in the K-70, smart tracking options could be implemented like many mirrorless cameras offer.
If the same lens mount is used, then mirrorless and dslrs have more in common than they are different really.
Issue I can see with the KP is that it's priced really high for what's close to a K-70 internals. It doesn't have the k-3 1/8000 shutter etc and I think you are paying a lot for the 'retro' casing, which I personally don't mind the look of.
There are some significant diffences between the K70 and the KP
27 Point AF in KP Vs 11 in K70
5 Axis shake reduction ( 5 stops) Vs 4 axis (4.5 Stops) on K70
86K pixel RGB sensor Metering Vs 77-segment metering
New Sensor
Metal to Plastic body
Posted 12/02/2017 - 13:28
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They was saying that the k1 and the kp are in there words totally driven by Ricoh which is understandable
And as for the k1 you can still get it for the launch price if you ask the right Q to the right people if you know what I meen
And as for the k1 you can still get it for the launch price if you ask the right Q to the right people if you know what I meen
Posted 12/02/2017 - 14:15
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sebas77 wrote:
yeah but, if I am not wrong, Pentax already increased the prices few weeks after brexit. The k1 was originally at 1599 and now it's possible to find it at that price only with deals. Same goes for the lenses, therefore the prices were already aligned with the weak pound.
They put up a lot of prices throughout the world. Raw materials and production costs can go up as well as down. Insecurity in the trading world due to the political situation also contributes. The pound falling only makes it more painful for you, and results in a further price hike.yeah but, if I am not wrong, Pentax already increased the prices few weeks after brexit. The k1 was originally at 1599 and now it's possible to find it at that price only with deals. Same goes for the lenses, therefore the prices were already aligned with the weak pound.
We had the same here when the pound was high against the euro. If you could have been bothered to look at European shops then you could have found some real bargains.
Edit btw SRS have for today only (12 February) the K-1 at the original price!
Posted 12/02/2017 - 14:28
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On the flip side, selling old equipment on ebay is a breeze. The majority of my recent sales have gone to Italy.
Peter
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Posted 12/02/2017 - 14:32
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Yes, but the fees both flea bay and PayPal hurt more than they used to, I now look elsewhere to sell.
Chris
www.chrismillsphotography.co.uk
" A Hangover is something that occupies the Head you neglected to use the night before".
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K1 - Sigma 85mm F1.4, Pentax DFA 150 -450 F4.5 / 5.6, Pentax DFA* 24 - 70 F2.8
Samyang 14mm F2.8, Pentax DFA* 70-200 F2.8, Pentax A 50mm F1.2
K3iii + K3ii + K5iis converted to IR, Sigma 17 - 70 F2.8, Pentax 55 - 300 F4.5 / F5.6 PLM
www.chrismillsphotography.co.uk
" A Hangover is something that occupies the Head you neglected to use the night before".
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K1 - Sigma 85mm F1.4, Pentax DFA 150 -450 F4.5 / 5.6, Pentax DFA* 24 - 70 F2.8
Samyang 14mm F2.8, Pentax DFA* 70-200 F2.8, Pentax A 50mm F1.2
K3iii + K3ii + K5iis converted to IR, Sigma 17 - 70 F2.8, Pentax 55 - 300 F4.5 / F5.6 PLM
Posted 12/02/2017 - 14:33
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Gwyn wrote:
[quote:3496ace15f="sebas77"]We had the same here when the pound was high against the euro. If you could have been bothered to look at European shops then you could have found some real bargains.
Yup, I got my 150-450mm from Europe nearly 2 years ago now. If I remember correctly it was a good £250 cheaper than UK prices st the time.
[quote:3496ace15f="sebas77"]We had the same here when the pound was high against the euro. If you could have been bothered to look at European shops then you could have found some real bargains.
Posted 12/02/2017 - 15:09
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well there is a bright side its not just pentax users that are having to pay the price lol
Posted 12/02/2017 - 19:35
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Doese anyone know if the grips are extra in the Uk . I do not see additional prices for these. I ask because someone somewhere stated. They were additional costs in the Uk .
Also SRS and Park cameras have the KP with. A :FIVE YEAR WARRANTY."
This has to be worth something around The £200 mark ( guese) .
Regards
Also SRS and Park cameras have the KP with. A :FIVE YEAR WARRANTY."
This has to be worth something around The £200 mark ( guese) .
Regards
Posted 12/02/2017 - 19:58
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i take it you meen the battery grip not the 3 grips you change with the alan key provided
the hand grips are free
the battery grip is extra but with the added advantage of taking the k3ii battery which is a plus
the hand grips are free
the battery grip is extra but with the added advantage of taking the k3ii battery which is a plus
Posted 12/02/2017 - 20:48
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theonenadeem wrote:
Doese anyone know if the grips are extra in the Uk . I do not see additional prices for these. I ask because someone somewhere stated. They were additional costs in the Uk .
Also SRS and Park cameras have the KP with. A :FIVE YEAR WARRANTY."
This has to be worth something around The £200 mark ( guese) .
Regards
The battery grip is extra in the UK but included in the USA AFAIK. 3 interchangeable hand grips are included.Doese anyone know if the grips are extra in the Uk . I do not see additional prices for these. I ask because someone somewhere stated. They were additional costs in the Uk .
Also SRS and Park cameras have the KP with. A :FIVE YEAR WARRANTY."
This has to be worth something around The £200 mark ( guese) .
Regards
BTW Stu thx for the message
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