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Gallery Help Please

go4IT
Posted 12/05/2017 - 21:20 Link
How do you replace an existing gallery photo with a corrected version of same, without wiping out all the comments that accrued to the first version>
JAK
Posted 12/05/2017 - 21:35 Link
Select the photo page in the gallery
Click Edit (bottom right of the photo)
Click Update photo (near the bottom of the page, but before any comments.)
John K
Edited by JAK: 12/05/2017 - 21:35
go4IT
Posted 12/05/2017 - 22:11 Link
Thank you JAK. I did those two things. But what do you do next? Do you delete photo, or what?
go4IT
Posted 12/05/2017 - 22:23 Link
I just lost all my comments!!!
JAK
Posted 12/05/2017 - 22:29 Link
Thought you just uploaded the new one to replace it!
John K
bforbes
Posted 12/05/2017 - 22:49 Link
Are you not better off just entering a new image in the Gallery. If you have modified the image, would the comments still relate to the replaced image
johnriley
Posted 12/05/2017 - 23:03 Link
I think you need to upload a new version. It would potentially be a little unfair to keep comments that refer to one image and then change that image?
Best regards, John
go4IT
Posted 13/05/2017 - 01:33 Link
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JAK wrote:
Thought you just uploaded the new one to replace it!

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That's what I was trying to do. After I pressed "update photo" (an option I presume is approved by PU, otherwise why give everyone that option?), I pressed "delete photo", and this brings up a yes/no question, that is, do you want to delete the photo ---the photo--- or not? Obviously the answer is "yes, I want to delete the PHOTO". And when I pressed "yes", all the comments vanished along with the photo. There was no action I could take other than that one, which brings me back to my question, how does one "update a photo?" And can one actually update a photo? If all the site can offer is "delete" a photo, why is an update choice offered?

Now, as to the question of fairness----how is it unfair to anyone unless I changed the photo for the worse? So much worse that commentators would be complaining that their comments no longer apply. But I made a slight and I mean extremely slight change (that probably not 2 people in a hundred would even notice) for the BETTER. Assuming that "update photo" is an OK thing to do, nobody I know would suffer from such an update, so fairness isn't the issue here.

For me, the issue is how do I update in the future?
SteveLedger
Posted 13/05/2017 - 02:46 Link
johnriley wrote:
I think you need to upload a new version. It would potentially be a little unfair to keep comments that refer to one image and then change that image?

I'd go as far as saying it would be dishonest to receive comments on one photo then change it out after the event.
Edited by SteveLedger: 13/05/2017 - 02:48
RobL
Posted 13/05/2017 - 08:16 Link
It's question of degree, for instance on one of mine I noticeed the horizon wasn't quite level and it would have been nice to update but didn't. Also you could add a comment to say it has been updated and give the reason.
go4IT
Posted 13/05/2017 - 14:30 Link
I have a few points to make and then I am going to end my posts to this topic.

First, all the comments on my original version of Heavenly Shades of Night Are Falling were very positive, as all the persons who posted them would agree. Mag07, though he liked the photo, suggested that he detected a very slight curving in some of the buildings' profiles. Nocturnal corrected Mag07 by saying there were not curves, just slightly converging lines, and that he liked that effect. I however, after a very close examination, found what my fellow PUsers were talking about and decided to take Mag07's advice to make adjustments in LR, and indicated that in a post, openly and HONESTLY.

Then, openly and HONESTLY, I started this forum topic, asking how I could replace the original photo with the adjusted one and still retain the comments. I fail to see what is unfair or dishonest in wanting to retain positive comments. Of course I would have alerted users to the nature of the adjustment because I wanted them to know I improved the photo, thanks to Mag07. If I had instead just uploaded the revised image without touching the first one, I would have achieved the same goal, except that now I would have two images that I was positive would look identical to the vast majority of viewers. Also, I believed PU allows photo updates, because they have a Photo Update button. I am a new member (January 2917), and had no inkling I was doing something unfair or DISHONEST. I still don't "get it".

Will somebody please explain in detail what I did that was unfair? Note that John Riley, who first brought the issue up, used the word "potentially".

And will somebody please tell me if it is even possible to retain comments?
derek897
Posted 13/05/2017 - 16:16 Link
I have had to delete images from the gallery in the past to update them. I could have left both there but didn't. I saw no real issue with losing whatever comments were on it as they belonged to that image not the updated one.
It's a tough call in as far as you're concerned there is little or no difference in the image. But those who commented would have grounds to be annoyed if you updated it with a shot of a fuzzy brick wall
I think there used to be an option to have both versions there (might still be there) ( possibly a different forum)

Note to self. Make sure you're happy with the image before posting
I know what i like, If not always why.
RobL
Posted 13/05/2017 - 16:42 Link
go4IT wrote:
I have a few points to make and then I am going to end my posts to this topic.

First, all the comments on my original version of Heavenly Shades of Night Are Falling were very positive, as all the persons who posted them would agree. Mag07, though he liked the photo, suggested that he detected a very slight curving in some of the buildings' profiles. Nocturnal corrected Mag07 by saying there were not curves, just slightly converging lines, and that he liked that effect. I however, after a very close examination, found what my fellow PUsers were talking about and decided to take Mag07's advice to make adjustments in LR, and indicated that in a post, openly and HONESTLY.

Then, openly and HONESTLY, I started this forum topic, asking how I could replace the original photo with the adjusted one and still retain the comments. I fail to see what is unfair or dishonest in wanting to retain positive comments. Of course I would have alerted users to the nature of the adjustment because I wanted them to know I improved the photo, thanks to Mag07. If I had instead just uploaded the revised image without touching the first one, I would have achieved the same goal, except that now I would have two images that I was positive would look identical to the vast majority of viewers. Also, I believed PU allows photo updates, because they have a Photo Update button. I am a new member (January 2917), and had no inkling I was doing something unfair or DISHONEST. I still don't "get it".

Will somebody please explain in detail what I did that was unfair? Note that John Riley, who first brought the issue up, used the word "potentially".

And will somebody please tell me if it is even possible to retain comments?

Don't let SteveLedger rile you, he can be rather forthright.
johnriley
Posted 13/05/2017 - 17:36 Link
In the distant past, some posters have taken advantage by changing their posts (or pictures) after a discussion was well under way, in some cases undermining what had been said so much that it made no sense any more.

As a principle, we have a short time where posts can be changed to allow errors to be corrected, such as spelling, but then the post cannot be changed. If we want to upload a second version, then a new post entirely is the way to go.

Hope that helps.
Best regards, John
go4IT
Posted 14/05/2017 - 15:14 Link
johnriley wrote:
In the distant past, some posters have taken advantage by changing their posts (or pictures) after a discussion was well under way, in some cases undermining what had been said so much that it made no sense any more.

As a principle, we have a short time where posts can be changed to allow errors to be corrected, such as spelling, but then the post cannot be changed. If we want to upload a second version, then a new post entirely is the way to go.

Hope that helps.

Thanks JR. Over and out.

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