File transfer: USB cable or SD card reader?

cabstar
Posted 30/07/2015 - 13:27 Link
PeterKR wrote:
Algernon wrote:
This is one of the fastest readers you can buy. (£9.29 post free) Up to 90MB/s on USB 3.0 (slower on USB2) plus the card goes in facing upwards I have another reader which is nearly as fast, but it's a pain having to remember to turn the card upside down every time I use it so I now just use the Transcend.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/231269224256?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=S...

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Many thanks for the link - but I've ordered one for £5.99 (post free) from here :-

http://www.expansys.com/transcend-card-reader-usb-30-sdhc-sdxc-microsdhc-microsd...

Peter
Thats only UHS-1 which won't read the new high speed UHS-2 cards which go unto 280mb/s read speeds
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Algernon
Posted 30/07/2015 - 13:49 Link
Which Pentax camera takes the new high speed UHS-2 cards?

The cards themselves need an extra line of contacts which makes them superfluous on just about everything

They also cost £80

http://www.legitreviews.com/sandisk-extreme-pro-uhs-ii-32gb-memory-card-review_1...

Edit: USB 3.0 is now obsolete anyway USB 3.1 is twice as fast

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Algi
Edited by Algernon: 30/07/2015 - 13:57
cabstar
Posted 30/07/2015 - 21:06 Link
Not many cameras yet but that's not really important if getting the images int your computer Asap is important as it is for me then every little helps
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Algernon
Posted 31/07/2015 - 08:50 Link
I've ordered a Kingston MobileLite G4 USB 3.0 Card Reader anyway, so when it comes I'll compare it with the Transcend using a Samsung 32GB Class 10 UHS-1 and a Sandisk Extreme 45MB/s cards. I had a 95MB/s Toshiba, but can't find it.

So far the Transcend is faster than a Lexar Dual Reader USB3 and an Orico USB3.

It's a pity cameras don't take Flash Drives you can get a 64GB Drive that does 245MB/s for only £27

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/UK-Direct-SanDisk-64G-Cruzer-Extreme-CZ80-USB-3-0-Flas...

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Algi
Edited by Algernon: 31/07/2015 - 08:50
ilovesaabs
Posted 31/07/2015 - 14:01 Link
For SD cards both laptop and PC have SD slots.

For CF I use the card reader.
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OldTaffy
Posted 31/07/2015 - 14:47 Link
Thanks for all your comments and suggestions. I shall now order one of the card readers, plus a couple of faster SD cards. The tide of opinion has obviously moved away from cable connection in favour of card readers.

I suppose I could have specified a card reader slot when I ordered my Dell Optiplex a couple of years ago, but didn't think of it at the time. And it only has one USB 3.0 slot: it is at the back of the tower and permanently occupied by my external WD hard drive for backups. On the other hand, the much cheaper minitower that we recently bought for my wife comes with a card reader slot at the front as standard.

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Algernon
Posted 31/07/2015 - 15:11 Link
Picstop are currently doing a fast 60MB/s Sandisk Extreme 32GB for £13.99 delivered. They also do it via ebay. Pictop have always been main dealers for Sandisk so all their cards are genuine.

http://www.picstop.co.uk/memory-cards/secure-digital-sdhc/sandisk-extreme-iii-se...

This site doesn't say what reader they have used, but they've got 91 MB/s read and 79 MB/s write off the older 32GB Extreme 45 MB/s card

http://www.pureoverclock.com/Review-detail/sandisk-ultra-plus-and-extreme-sd-rev...

You can fit extra USB 3.0 slots via a PCI-E card if a slots available. They are the same in terms of performance.

I've used an Inateck one on an old USB2 board before. This one doesn't need the extra lead from the PSU. £13.99

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Cord-free-Inateck%C2%AE-Controller-Internal-Connector/dp/B00K0C4LRG/ref=pd_cp_computers_0

Alternatively a small USB 3.0 Hub.

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Algi
Edited by Algernon: 31/07/2015 - 15:31
Aitch53
Posted 01/08/2015 - 10:01 Link
The base station for my old Lenovo (X60s, should you be interested) has a built in card reader. Unfortunately, I've never managed to get it to work (must look into that...).

So I have a sort of empty USB memory stick that I put the SD card in, then stick it in a USB socket. Not gallopingly fast (only USB2), but it works. And if there are a lot of pics, it gives me time to make a cup of tea while they upload.

Hmmm, my new 8.1 test machine has a USB3 socket. I must check out if it's quicker to use that and pass the files over the wi-fi to the big drive...
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Algernon
Posted 01/08/2015 - 11:41 Link
Algernon wrote:
I've ordered a Kingston MobileLite G4 USB 3.0 Card Reader anyway, so when it comes I'll compare it with the Transcend using a Samsung 32GB Class 10 UHS-1 and a Sandisk Extreme 45MB/s cards. I had a 95MB/s Toshiba, but can't find it.

So far the Transcend is faster than a Lexar Dual Reader USB3 and an Orico USB3.

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Received the Kingston Reader nice heavy metal...... bit on the big size.

I can only find a 16GB Sandisk Extreme 45MB/s card + a Samsung 32GB Class 10 UHS-1 for testing. (Sure I had a 32GB Extreme somewhere? )

Both readers are very close and I'm happy to use either. I would suggest buying both because they are so cheap.

The Transcend is slightly faster from Card to PC, but from PC to Card copying 500MB of DNG and JPG's it's TWICE AS FAST! (31.2MB/s v 14.8MB/s).

For what we need DNG and JPG's to PC they are the same. Tested 454MB's Card to Fast Ramdisk = 31 files in 11.1 secs = 41.3 MB/s

The Kingston MobileLite G4 has slow Random Read 512KB (tried 3 times) which is unusual, but we don't use that a lot.

CrystalDiskMark 3.0.3 x64 TEST RESULTS
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GIGABYTE BOARD USB3 W7 64bit
ONBOARD USB 3.0 SOCKET
TRANSCEND USB3 READER
SANDISK EXTREME 16GB 45MB/s

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CrystalDiskMark 3.0.3 x64 (C) 2007-2013 hiyohiyo
Crystal Dew World : http://crystalmark.info/
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* MB/s = 1,000,000 byte/s [SATA/300 = 300,000,000 byte/s]

Sequential Read : 47.735 MB/s
Sequential Write : 42.162 MB/s
Random Read 512KB : 45.227 MB/s
Random Write 512KB : 3.340 MB/s
Random Read 4KB (QD=1) : 5.036 MB/s [ 1229.6 IOPS]
Random Write 4KB (QD=1) : 0.671 MB/s [ 163.8 IOPS]
Random Read 4KB (QD=32) : 4.724 MB/s [ 1153.4 IOPS]
Random Write 4KB (QD=32) : 0.787 MB/s [ 192.2 IOPS]

Test : 100 MB [H: 38.1% (5.7/14.8 GB)] (x1)
Date : 2015/07/31 19:07:02
OS : Windows 7 x64 bit

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GIGABYTE BOARD USB3 W7 64bit
ONBOARD USB 3.0
KINGSTON USB3 READER +
SANDISK EXTREME 16GB 45MB/s

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CrystalDiskMark 3.0.3 x64 (C) 2007-2013 hiyohiyo
Crystal Dew World : http://crystalmark.info/
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* MB/s = 1,000,000 byte/s [SATA/300 = 300,000,000 byte/s]

Sequential Read : 47.404 MB/s
Sequential Write : 42.694 MB/s
Random Read 512KB : 29.415 MB/s
Random Write 512KB : 2.928 MB/s
Random Read 4KB (QD=1) : 6.333 MB/s [ 1546.2 IOPS]
Random Write 4KB (QD=1) : 0.594 MB/s [ 144.9 IOPS]
Random Read 4KB (QD=32) : 6.051 MB/s [ 1477.3 IOPS]
Random Write 4KB (QD=32) : 0.856 MB/s [ 208.9 IOPS]

Test : 100 MB [H: 38.1% (5.7/14.8 GB)] (x1)
Date : 2015/08/01 10:28:45
OS : Windows 7 x64 bit

The Samsung 32GB Class 10 UHS-1 was slightly slower

Sequential Read : 45.796 MB/s
Sequential Write : 39.420 MB/s
Random Read 512KB : 29.237 MB/s
Random Write 512KB : 25.525 MB/s

Edit: Just noticed the Random Write 512KB for the Sandisk Extreme is very slow and it's the same on earlier tests. We rarely use 512kb files.

The test I posted above LINK only got 1.785 MB/s so there's was even worse. My Samsung was 14x faster. Unless it's a bug in Crystal Disk Mark?
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Edited by Algernon: 01/08/2015 - 12:08

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