Do your K5 shots need more sharpening?
Posted 03/06/2011 - 22:39
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I'm not sure what you mean by "capture" sharpening, but I haven't found I need to apply anything different in Lightroom for the K-5 as I did for the K20D.
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Posted 04/06/2011 - 01:50
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I haven't noticed any differences between the K10, K-x and K5 while in Lightroom that would need different sharpening amounts. When applying output sharpening, I also use one standard process for images from each body.
Posted 04/06/2011 - 09:06
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I've noticed that I apply more sharpening on the k5 that the k20d.
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Posted 04/06/2011 - 09:10
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I use the "Bruce Fraser" method for sharpening which involves 3 stages - explained in the link:
http://www.creativepro.com/article/out-of-gamut-thoughts-on-a-sharpening-workflo...
My initial impression is that images are slightly softer out of camera than they were with the K20D, having had a quick look around the web it seems a few people have mentioned this too...no problem either way as I'll just add a little extra in ACR
Simon
http://www.creativepro.com/article/out-of-gamut-thoughts-on-a-sharpening-workflo...
My initial impression is that images are slightly softer out of camera than they were with the K20D, having had a quick look around the web it seems a few people have mentioned this too...no problem either way as I'll just add a little extra in ACR
Simon
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Posted 04/06/2011 - 10:04
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There's no harm in incresing the capture sharpening from 25% to whatever suits you. It is a different sensor so it won't look exactly the same as the previous K20D.
What is the actual final output for your images, print or web?
What is the actual final output for your images, print or web?
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Posted 04/06/2011 - 11:06
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i have found that the K5 needs more post processing to bring out all the detail the excellent camera can capture...and of course the images can take it
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Posted 04/06/2011 - 14:15
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royd63uk wrote:
i have found that the K5 needs more post processing to bring out all the detail the excellent camera can capture...and of course the images can take it
So is it fair to say that it's not a camera for those that are not proficient in post processing?i have found that the K5 needs more post processing to bring out all the detail the excellent camera can capture...and of course the images can take it
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Posted 04/06/2011 - 14:28
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As John said, you can turn up the in-camera sharpening. I am guessing this lack of 1:1 sharpness is not something you'd see in an A3 print anyway.
And I know some people avoid post processing if they can, but you are nuts if you are spending a grand on a DSLR without a basic knowledge of, or willingness to learn about, post processing. IMHO of course!
And I know some people avoid post processing if they can, but you are nuts if you are spending a grand on a DSLR without a basic knowledge of, or willingness to learn about, post processing. IMHO of course!
Posted 04/06/2011 - 14:29
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My guess is you would get excellent jpegs out of it if you didn't want to do the RAW conversion yourself.royd63uk wrote:
i have found that the K5 needs more post processing to bring out all the detail the excellent camera can capture...and of course the images can take it
So is it fair to say that it's not a camera for those that are not proficient in post processing?i have found that the K5 needs more post processing to bring out all the detail the excellent camera can capture...and of course the images can take it
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Posted 04/06/2011 - 14:34
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It only seems to like the "Top Lenses" My DA*300mm seems OK straight from the camera, but lesser lenses don't look too good and I'm not that sure that sharpening will improve matters.
It is good for shots in poor light etc. where the K20D could only manage very noisy shots. The K-5 with something like the DA*300mm f/4 produces good results.
It is good for shots in poor light etc. where the K20D could only manage very noisy shots. The K-5 with something like the DA*300mm f/4 produces good results.
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Posted 04/06/2011 - 14:44
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I do a lot less PP, including sharpening (which I admit is not my strong point anyway), with the K-5 than I ever did with the K20D.
Posted 04/06/2011 - 15:37
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Algernon wrote:
It only seems to like the "Top Lenses" My DA*300mm seems OK straight from the camera, but lesser lenses don't look too good and I'm not that sure that sharpening will improve matters.
At 16Mp the censor is no longer the limit of resolution, it's the lens you have on the front of the camera. Even the FA 43 Ltd would struggle to outresolve the censor at it's optimum aperture. I found myself only buying primes after upgrading from K10D to K20D.It only seems to like the "Top Lenses" My DA*300mm seems OK straight from the camera, but lesser lenses don't look too good and I'm not that sure that sharpening will improve matters.
John
Posted 04/06/2011 - 19:04
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johnwhit wrote:
John
What happens when the sensors have a much greater resolution than even the sharpest prime? Are you going to stop buying primes as well?
Algernon wrote:
It only seems to like the "Top Lenses" My DA*300mm seems OK straight from the camera, but lesser lenses don't look too good and I'm not that sure that sharpening will improve matters.
At 16Mp the censor is no longer the limit of resolution, it's the lens you have on the front of the camera. Even the FA 43 Ltd would struggle to outresolve the censor at it's optimum aperture. I found myself only buying primes after upgrading from K10D to K20D.It only seems to like the "Top Lenses" My DA*300mm seems OK straight from the camera, but lesser lenses don't look too good and I'm not that sure that sharpening will improve matters.
John
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