Do you work as a photographer?


claystevens

Link Posted 14/01/2014 - 03:32
Professional photographer or just amateur, can you earn money with it?

Fletcher8

Link Posted 14/01/2014 - 08:43
Yes you can earn money from photography but its not easy regardless if you are a professional or an amateur. There are some photographers that make a very good living from their work, but for everyone one of them that does, there are hundred who probably per year earn the equivalent of a minimum wage job.

I think a lot of photographers supplement their income from photography with other types of work, its certainly not easy to earn a living from photography, but it can be done and people do do it. The photographers that are successful are good at business and thats how they earn money.

I have earned some money from photography, but its not consistent and its not easy. However, I continue to work at it and i hope this will improve. Apart from ones photographic work in terms of images, I think the main key ingredients are?

Contacts
Marketing
Creativity
People Skills
Determination

Plus a load of other things, but from my experience a little luck.
Fletcher8.
Last Edited by Fletcher8 on 14/01/2014 - 08:44

cabstar

Link Posted 14/01/2014 - 08:54
Ive earnt money from pro photography supplying images for press use, weddings and clubs.

i specialised in music photography which as a career has just about gone down the toilet due to falling magazine sales.

weddings i do rarely but charge high, far to many doing weddings for two or three hundred quid, which after you take into account equipment, insurance and editing tine is far less than minimum wage.

the club work i do on a weekly basis and pays fairly well but the hours are not good, Saturday nights usually so no more nights out.

I'm currently studying business management at degree level in my final year and in September begin training to be a maths teacher.

I will still dabble a little in photography but to be honest how anyone can make a fulltime career out of it unless you live in a major city I don't know...
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gartmore

Link Posted 14/01/2014 - 09:31
I've made a pretty good living from photography of various sorts since 1976. It's harder now than it ever was, if a city as large as Glasgow has no high street photographers left it gives some idea of the state of the market
Ken
“We must avoid however, snapping away, shooting quickly and without thought, overloading ourselves with unnecessary images that clutter our memory and diminish the clarity of the whole.” - Henri Cartier-Bresson -

CMW

Link Posted 14/01/2014 - 09:46
I suspect surprisingly few even of the top professionals can make a good living directly from their photography. A fair few appear to find holding photography workshops and suchlike a way of keeping the wolf from the door, and the most enterprising of them have developed sizeable businesses. But there is probably a long tail of photographers offering tuition who don't have the profile or organisational skills or whatever else it takes to get their enterprises off the ground.
Regards, Christopher

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Mannesty

Link Posted 14/01/2014 - 10:18
I think that if you have to ask that question, you probably won't.

Only part of a photographers work is actual photography. You'll also need reasonable skills and knowledge of advertising, salesmanship, accounting and probably other business disciplines.
Peter E Smith

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pentaxian450

Link Posted 14/01/2014 - 11:50
What hurts the job a lot in my part of the world is all the newspaper, TV stations and so on asking for people to send pictures of events. Those people aren't paid and the paper or TV stations don't need to keep as many photographers on their payroll anymore.

Another source of frustration is all the people getting a digital camera and advertising for low cost wedding photography. Those people generally don't last long in the trade, but they hurt the business a lot by giving a bad reputation to decent photographers.

Fortunately, I developed a "niche" that allows me to survive rather well with photography.
Yves (another one of those crazy Canucks)

cbrog

Link Posted 14/01/2014 - 13:39
I was employed on a salary as a technical photographer in the heavy chemical industry. Do these positions and opportunities no longer exist?


Roger

claystevens

Link Posted 24/01/2014 - 08:13
gartmore wrote:
I've made a pretty good living from photography of various sorts since 1976. It's harder now than it ever was, if a city as large as Glasgow has no high street photographers left it gives some idea of the state of the market

1976, very old times. I have only two years. How many years and how old are you since you get into photography at 1976?

claystevens

Link Posted 24/01/2014 - 08:15
CMW wrote:
I suspect surprisingly few even of the top professionals can make a good living directly from their photography. A fair few appear to find holding photography workshops and suchlike a way of keeping the wolf from the door, and the most enterprising of them have developed sizeable businesses. But there is probably a long tail of photographers offering tuition who don't have the profile or organisational skills or whatever else it takes to get their enterprises off the ground.

I think it is a good sideline more than a full time job for most of people. Isn't it?

claystevens

Link Posted 24/01/2014 - 08:16
cbrog wrote:
I was employed on a salary as a technical photographer in the heavy chemical industry. Do these positions and opportunities no longer exist?


Roger

It does exist, but I think the chance is very few.

gartmore

Link Posted 24/01/2014 - 08:20
claystevens wrote:
gartmore wrote:
I've made a pretty good living from photography of various sorts since 1976. It's harder now than it ever was, if a city as large as Glasgow has no high street photographers left it gives some idea of the state of the market

1976, very old times. I have only two years. How many years and how old are you since you get into photography at 1976?

I was 22 when I started, you can do the maths.
Ken
“We must avoid however, snapping away, shooting quickly and without thought, overloading ourselves with unnecessary images that clutter our memory and diminish the clarity of the whole.” - Henri Cartier-Bresson -

gartmore

Link Posted 24/01/2014 - 08:22
I don't know where this thread is going with this talk about not being able to make a living. I can think of at least 12 other people I know making their living from photography
Ken
“We must avoid however, snapping away, shooting quickly and without thought, overloading ourselves with unnecessary images that clutter our memory and diminish the clarity of the whole.” - Henri Cartier-Bresson -

richandfleur

Link Posted 24/01/2014 - 09:07
Mannesty wrote:

Only part of a photographers work is actual photography. You'll also need reasonable skills and knowledge of advertising, salesmanship, accounting and probably other business disciplines.

I was going to write some more, but really this kinda sums it up totally.

AuraTodd

Link Posted 24/01/2014 - 09:14
I do it for pleasure, I wouldn't mind earning some cash for it but I don't think that's gong to happen somehow.
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