Cokin ND grads...
Posted 08/09/2008 - 21:41
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Love the colours, the sky and the lighting in numbers 3 and 5 - looks like you're getting good use from your new purchases.
Number 2's probably my least favourite - nothing wrong with it technically but that expanse of mud at the front just looks untidy and uninteresting to me. Just my $0.02.
Number 2's probably my least favourite - nothing wrong with it technically but that expanse of mud at the front just looks untidy and uninteresting to me. Just my $0.02.
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Posted 09/09/2008 - 07:04
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I like images 1,3 & 5. Over all a good set. I have a set of ND grads I bought before I left the uk but I haven't used them yet as I dont have the adapter rings for my lenses.
In your post your say
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PaulM
In your post your say
ikillrocknroll wrote:
K20D, DA18-55II, Cokin P121M, P121S, Hoya NDX4.
So did you use all three of these filters together or seperately ? or in a combination ?K20D, DA18-55II, Cokin P121M, P121S, Hoya NDX4.
Regards
PaulM
All cameras are equal but.....
Some are more equal than others
Some are more equal than others
Posted 09/09/2008 - 07:42
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I love your last one - the water is perfect with the long shutterspeed.
Overall - you did excellent and it seems to suit your style very good.
I do love my cokin p serie as well. Very handy.
Overall - you did excellent and it seems to suit your style very good.
I do love my cokin p serie as well. Very handy.
Posted 09/09/2008 - 08:41
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Very nice results overall
Yes, the Cokin P do have quite a magenta cast. This is particularly evident if you stack 2 or more filters together. Every P size filter I have used has this colour cast (not just Cokin).
The Cokin Z-Pro filters have a lot less magenta tinge to them - probably 1/2 to a 1/3. But then they're much more expensive and right pain to carry around
Matt
Yes, the Cokin P do have quite a magenta cast. This is particularly evident if you stack 2 or more filters together. Every P size filter I have used has this colour cast (not just Cokin).
The Cokin Z-Pro filters have a lot less magenta tinge to them - probably 1/2 to a 1/3. But then they're much more expensive and right pain to carry around
Matt
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Posted 09/09/2008 - 17:05
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MattMatic, apparently hitech filters have less of a tinge, and lee filters have next to none.
And then you get onto singh ray, the god of all filters.. heh.
And pnjmcc, aye, I used all together most of the time. With my UV and polarizer with the filters (they were on there when i first had a play in my room at 8am when i recieved the lenses) there was vignetting at 18 wide open, but here it was fine shooting 18mm. Although I was shooting F/8-F/29, and usually around F/16.
Depending on what view i was taken, I would often reverse the lighter grad so that I got a razorsharp cut along the horizon, with the darker grad providing a soft transition. Saves me buying a soft and a hard set I guess..
And then you get onto singh ray, the god of all filters.. heh.
And pnjmcc, aye, I used all together most of the time. With my UV and polarizer with the filters (they were on there when i first had a play in my room at 8am when i recieved the lenses) there was vignetting at 18 wide open, but here it was fine shooting 18mm. Although I was shooting F/8-F/29, and usually around F/16.
Depending on what view i was taken, I would often reverse the lighter grad so that I got a razorsharp cut along the horizon, with the darker grad providing a soft transition. Saves me buying a soft and a hard set I guess..
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K20D, DA18-55II, FA50 1.4, DA10-17
To buy: Metz 58 AF-1, DA*50-135, DA12-24, DA100M
K20D, DA18-55II, FA50 1.4, DA10-17
To buy: Metz 58 AF-1, DA*50-135, DA12-24, DA100M
Posted 09/09/2008 - 17:19
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The HiTech P-size ones I have are almost identical to the Cokin ones.
Yes, the Lee are said to be better... except I've heard they have more of a problem with blue skies (where the Cokin Z-Pro/X-Pro apparently outperform them). But the Lees (if you can afford them) are better at producing a moody image
Regarding angle of view - I have used the Cokin P-sized filters on the Pentax SMC-DA 12-24 (which is a 77mm filter). If you hacksaw off all but one of the filter slots on a Cokin P-holder you can get it to work with very little vignetting. To remove the vignetting completely you have to file out the circular aperture in the plastic holder a bit.
Now Cokin do a special wide angle holder which may possibly be better.
So, P size is fine for almost everything Pentax
(Unless you want less magenta and can afford the Cokin Z-Pro or Lee )
Matt
Yes, the Lee are said to be better... except I've heard they have more of a problem with blue skies (where the Cokin Z-Pro/X-Pro apparently outperform them). But the Lees (if you can afford them) are better at producing a moody image
Regarding angle of view - I have used the Cokin P-sized filters on the Pentax SMC-DA 12-24 (which is a 77mm filter). If you hacksaw off all but one of the filter slots on a Cokin P-holder you can get it to work with very little vignetting. To remove the vignetting completely you have to file out the circular aperture in the plastic holder a bit.
Now Cokin do a special wide angle holder which may possibly be better.
So, P size is fine for almost everything Pentax
(Unless you want less magenta and can afford the Cokin Z-Pro or Lee )
Matt
http://www.mattmatic.co.uk
(For gallery, tips and links)
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Posted 09/09/2008 - 23:46
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well i wasnt planning on using them for daytime much anyway
so it doesnt really matter for sunsets, it kinda adds to it
still, filters are very expensive, sadly.
next on my list.. hoya ND400. 9 stops
so it doesnt really matter for sunsets, it kinda adds to it
still, filters are very expensive, sadly.
next on my list.. hoya ND400. 9 stops
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K20D, DA18-55II, FA50 1.4, DA10-17
To buy: Metz 58 AF-1, DA*50-135, DA12-24, DA100M
K20D, DA18-55II, FA50 1.4, DA10-17
To buy: Metz 58 AF-1, DA*50-135, DA12-24, DA100M
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Anyway, onto the photos.
The Cokin ND's give a slight magenta cast, so thats where alot of the colour has come from. I must admit one or two are pretty extreme but I can assure you 90% of the photos is in camera, only removing rubbish or non-aesthetically pleasing stuff from the scenes (bright red bouyoncy balls in the water etc..)
K20D, DA18-55II, Cokin P121M, P121S, Hoya NDX4.
3 image HDR processed and tone mapped.
2 shots joined at the hip. (The horizon).
The colours were true to the water after RAW processing in cameraraw, and the blue was slightly enhanced in the sky in photoshop.
Shot between 730 and 8 on my local beach.
These are the only views I took (though I took quite a few, upto 6, variations on each) and i'd say, they all came out well: 100% success rate
K20D, DA18-55II, FA50 1.4, DA10-17
To buy: Metz 58 AF-1, DA*50-135, DA12-24, DA100M