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callumj

Link Posted 03/02/2008 - 23:05
Can anyone recommend a good sub 100 (A4) inkjet printer. I am currently using an ageing HP 930c, but the quality leaves a lot to be desire. When printing B+W it seems to produce a slight orange peel texture, most noticable when reproducing large(ish) areas of the same tone.

Clarky

Link Posted 03/02/2008 - 23:37
callumj wrote:
Can anyone recommend a good sub 100 (A4) inkjet printer. I am currently using an ageing HP 930c, but the quality leaves a lot to be desire. When printing B+W it seems to produce a slight orange peel texture, most noticable when reproducing large(ish) areas of the same tone.

I use the Epsom R390 and i find it an excellent printer producing very good prints. It uses the 6 cartridge system which i find pretty good value for money.

Note: It is only an A4. I paid around $AUD220 which equates to about 100quid in your funny money
Camera:|K-7|
Pentax Lenses:|DA12-24/f4 ED AL|DA35Ltd Macro|FA31Ltd|FA77Ltd|FA50/1.4|F70-210|FA20-35 f4/AL|A*200/f4 Macro ED|A50/1.7|A50 Macro f2.8|1.7xAF adapter|
Voigtlander|125/f2.5SL Macro APO Lanthar|
Sigma Lenses:|EX DG 100-300 f4|2X & 1.4X TC|
Flashes:|AF540FGZx2|RingFlash AF160FC|

Hyram

Link Posted 04/02/2008 - 08:30
callumj wrote:
Can anyone recommend a good sub 100 (A4) inkjet printer. I am currently using an ageing HP 930c, but the quality leaves a lot to be desire. When printing B+W it seems to produce a slight orange peel texture, most noticable when reproducing large(ish) areas of the same tone.

I use an HP Photosmart C5180 which also uses a 6 ink cartridge system.

It has proved to be a very good buy.
Hyram

Bodies: K20D (2), K10D, Super A, ME Super, Auto 110 SLR, X70, Optio P70
Pentax Glass: DA* 300, DA* 60-250, DA* 50-135, DA* 16-50, DA 70 Ltd, FA 31 Ltd, DA 35 Ltd, DA 18-55 (2), DA 12-24, DA 10-17, M 200, A 35-70, M 40, M 28, Converter-A 2X-S, 1.4X-S, AF 1.7, Pentax-110 50, Pentax-110 24
Other Glass: Sigma 105 macro, Sigma-A APO 75-300
Flash: Metz 58 AF-1 P, Pentax AF160FC ringflash, Pentax AF280T

Gwyn

Link Posted 04/02/2008 - 09:06
Since I'm also looking for a printer can I add a question please?
Do either of the above printers also offer greyscale inks for b/w printing?

Clarky

Link Posted 04/02/2008 - 09:35
Gwyn wrote:
Since I'm also looking for a printer can I add a question please?
Do either of the above printers also offer greyscale inks for b/w printing?

When you say greyscale inks do you mean a different grade of ink in place of the black cartridge or just changing a setting to achieve the greyscale. If it is the latter then the Epsom R390 does have a greyscale option in the print preferences. Hope this helps
Camera:|K-7|
Pentax Lenses:|DA12-24/f4 ED AL|DA35Ltd Macro|FA31Ltd|FA77Ltd|FA50/1.4|F70-210|FA20-35 f4/AL|A*200/f4 Macro ED|A50/1.7|A50 Macro f2.8|1.7xAF adapter|
Voigtlander|125/f2.5SL Macro APO Lanthar|
Sigma Lenses:|EX DG 100-300 f4|2X & 1.4X TC|
Flashes:|AF540FGZx2|RingFlash AF160FC|

Gwyn

Link Posted 04/02/2008 - 09:41
No Clarky, some printers now have greyscale ink cartridges available that improve the quality of B/W prints. I just wondered if these had it - I was just too lazy to look it up on the net. I shall do that later, but now the vacuum cleaner is calling

Clarky

Link Posted 04/02/2008 - 09:45
Gwyn wrote:
No Clarky, some printers now have greyscale ink cartridges available that improve the quality of B/W prints. I just wondered if these had it - I was just too lazy to look it up on the net. I shall do that later, but now the vacuum cleaner is calling

Is that what that horrible noise is

I had a look in my manual and it doesn't mention anything about greyscale inks
Camera:|K-7|
Pentax Lenses:|DA12-24/f4 ED AL|DA35Ltd Macro|FA31Ltd|FA77Ltd|FA50/1.4|F70-210|FA20-35 f4/AL|A*200/f4 Macro ED|A50/1.7|A50 Macro f2.8|1.7xAF adapter|
Voigtlander|125/f2.5SL Macro APO Lanthar|
Sigma Lenses:|EX DG 100-300 f4|2X & 1.4X TC|
Flashes:|AF540FGZx2|RingFlash AF160FC|

beakynet

Link Posted 04/02/2008 - 12:16
callumj wrote:
Can anyone recommend a good sub 100 (A4) inkjet printer.

I use a Canon Pixima 5300, cost about 90 and produces great prints. What I like is that it does duplex printing (prints on both sides of the paper), its very fast and quiet and has a second paper tray where I keep my photo paper (dust free I might add!) so I don't have to mess with changing paper to print 4x6. I have more that doubled the amount of pictures I print as a result of this printer! Good for the old fashioned photo album!
Bodies: K5IIs, K7, MZ5n, LX, MV
Lenses: DA*16-50, DA18-55WR, DA18-135, DAL35, M50 F2, A50 f1.4, FA50 f1.4, DA*50-135, DA55-300, Tamron 70-300, DFA 100 WR Macro, M135 f3.5, Sigma 120-400 APO DG HSM, Tokina 500 f8.0
Flash: Metz 58, Metz 48
Accessories: BG4, Pentax right angle finder, Pentax mirror adaptor lens, O-ME53 Viewfinder Loupe
Auto 110 System: Auto 110, Winder, 18mm, 24mm, 50mm, 70mm, 20-40mm, AF100P, 1.7x telecon

Malo1961

Link Posted 04/02/2008 - 14:08
Gwyn wrote:
No Clarky, some printers now have greyscale ink cartridges available that improve the quality of B/W prints. I just wondered if these had it - I was just too lazy to look it up on the net. I shall do that later, but now the vacuum cleaner is calling

Hi Gwyn,
I myself have the HP Photosmart 7660. This one (about 2 years old) uses a special b & w cartridge. This one is specially used for black and white printing in conjuction whith the standard color cartridge. It delivers absolute fantastic prints. Neutral deep blacks if you want to. You simply swap the second color cartridge for the special black and grey one. I know the complete 7000 and 8000 series use this system.
See this link:http://h10010.www1.hp.com/wwpc/nl/nl/ho/WF13a/10709-11349-11473-11473-11537-503557.html
They are now no longer in production but still available on the market.
The newer models all use the new pigment based Vivera inkts (100 year lifespan of prints) and also come with a special b & w cartridge.
Hope this helps a little.
Martin.
Best regards,

Martin.


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Daniel Bridge

Link Posted 04/02/2008 - 14:31
I chose a Canon 4200, as the print quality and speed was good, but also, as Beakynet says, you get 2 paper trays. I use mine differently to Beaky, in that I have the plain paper in the bottom tray, and just top that up now and again, and use the rear loader for photopaper.

I prefer this method as it's a fairly straight path from back to front, whereas the other tray, involves a 180 degree turn for the paper. This is what puts me off the HP printers too. I print to greetings card blanks quit a bit, and for these I think the straight path is much better.

Don't know of any black and white inks for Canon printers though.

Oh, it also does CD/DVD printing. Cost about 60.

Dan
K-3, a macro lens and a DA*300mm...

Gwyn

Link Posted 04/02/2008 - 15:53
Thanks Martin! I shall have a look at the HP printers. My current printer is an ancient HP and I really like it but it is beginning to show it's age.

Hyram

Link Posted 04/02/2008 - 21:37
Gwyn wrote:
Since I'm also looking for a printer can I add a question please?
Do either of the above printers also offer greyscale inks for b/w printing?

Gwyn,

I tried replying earlier but some tecnical problem prevented my reply being accepted !

As others have noted the latest HP Photosmart printers use the 6 cartridge Vivera ink system.

The range includes special black photographic cartridges.

Being able to replace just the cartridge that has run out is very useful.
Hyram

Bodies: K20D (2), K10D, Super A, ME Super, Auto 110 SLR, X70, Optio P70
Pentax Glass: DA* 300, DA* 60-250, DA* 50-135, DA* 16-50, DA 70 Ltd, FA 31 Ltd, DA 35 Ltd, DA 18-55 (2), DA 12-24, DA 10-17, M 200, A 35-70, M 40, M 28, Converter-A 2X-S, 1.4X-S, AF 1.7, Pentax-110 50, Pentax-110 24
Other Glass: Sigma 105 macro, Sigma-A APO 75-300
Flash: Metz 58 AF-1 P, Pentax AF160FC ringflash, Pentax AF280T

Argee

Link Posted 07/02/2008 - 11:15
I use an Epson Stylus Photo R265 - 6-colour ink system, stunning A4 borderless prints and does printable CDs/DVDs too.

Ray.
Z1, K10D, D-BG2 Grip, DA 1:3.5-5.6 18-55mm AL, DA 1:3.5-6.3 18-250mm ED AL(IF), AF540FGZ Flash, FA 1:1.7 50mm, DA 1:2.4 70mm Limited, Wireless Remote (Did I offend you? Click here).

iceblinker

Link Posted 07/02/2008 - 15:07
With the Epson printers, how much does it cost per A4 print on average for paper and ink?

Cheers,
~Pete

Malo1961

Link Posted 07/02/2008 - 15:50
iceblinker wrote:
With the Epson printers, how much does it cost per A4 print on average for paper and ink?

Cheers,

It depends of a lot of variables. Pigment or dye inks, Type of paper used, Color variations etc....., But it is safe to say between 2 and 4 usd per A4 print. Not taken in account depreciation of the printer. The epson pro printers who use pigment inkts and print A3+ will be a bit higher.
HIH,
Martin.
Best regards,

Martin.


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