Bembridge Windmill, C&C please


MarkD

Link Posted 29/08/2009 - 22:36
Took these on a recent visit to the Isle of Wight. Still learning how to use the 12-24. At the wide end it seems to be a case of when you think you're too close, take another step! Took the first one for the shadow but now I don't feel it has the impact I was expecting. Perhaps because you can't see the sails so it isn't obvious what it is. ( Though that's often a good thing!) Should I have gone a little wider?
The second one I took with a polarizer (you can see the edges of it on the colour version, oops) but I think I prefer the B&W version.
Any thoughts on these?






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bforbes

Link Posted 29/08/2009 - 23:20
I prefer colour so it's number three for me. I'm also interested in the fact the filter shows. I've just taken delivery of the same lens and would normally fit a UV or skylight filter to it. Is any filter going to show up as your polarizer did or is it because a polarizer is deeper than a normal filter.
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Link Posted 29/08/2009 - 23:23
Number two for me.
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RR

Link Posted 29/08/2009 - 23:27
I like the colour version also & like the perspective distortion from the wide angle. Can you not remove the vignette in Post processing or during raw conversion Mark ?

The first shots's shadows under the roof are a little too deep for me & a little distracting. It may be from your mono conversion as I notice there is some detail in the shadows of the colour shot that is gone in the mono equivalent.
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MarkD

Link Posted 30/08/2009 - 00:33
RR, there is a a bit more detail under the roof but I wanted the high contrast look. (The colour version of number 1 looks fairly flat and boring to be honest)


I suppose I could play about with these with a bit of fill or selective HDR but I don't do much post processing as I haven't really got the time ( or experience if I'm honest). Same reason I haven't fixed the corners of the colour one yet. Thats why the B&W is slightly cropped - it's quicker!

I think the whispy clouds in the B&W number 2 are what do it for me. It just puts a bit more interest in the top left compared to the colour one.

Barrie, I think it's just that the polarizer is almost twice as thick as the normal filter so it shows in the corners at 12mm. I don't have a UV filter for this lens yet but some people do recommend buying the (expensive) ultra thin type, others say it isn't necessary. But the front element does stick out a long way so I'll feel happier when the UV filter turns up.

I think going a bit wider on the left of number one would have helped.

Thanks for looking.
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Last Edited by MarkD on 30/08/2009 - 00:40

aminstar

Link Posted 30/08/2009 - 04:05
One and three for me look great, although I do like the second one too, but definitely the colour version tops up. The vignetting spoils it a little but the image looks really great
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Technoblurb

Link Posted 30/08/2009 - 08:30
Second & Third one for me. I really like the distorted image against the blue sky especially in black and white. For me, the crop it too harsh on the fist image.

goggalee

Link Posted 30/08/2009 - 08:46
I like all of them, nicely captured!
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Aiki

Link Posted 30/08/2009 - 18:51
The first catces my eye. But I would crop some bottom away. So the shadow will be better exposed and balancing the pic.

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MarkD

Link Posted 30/08/2009 - 21:37
Thanks Aiki. That does help balance the picture.
But.... after looking at it again it looks even less like a windmill that it did before.
I guess this teaches me to take a wider insurance shot after my attempt at "artistic framing" so I can reframe or crop it differently when I get it home and realise I've messed up again.....
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Thordell

Link Posted 30/08/2009 - 21:45
Although I usually prefer colour I find myself drawn to number one, love the texture and the slightly menacing feel of the sail shadow.
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thoughton

Link Posted 31/08/2009 - 01:57
3rd one for me. I like the black sky in the top right on the 2nd pic, but the sky is already such a nice deep blue it looks great in colour as well. And I also really like the colour of the windmill, so the 3rd one wins it for me

I want to like the 1st one but as you mentioned I think with a bit more sail it would be better. Also the sky in the 1st shot looks a bit washed out.
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Lance B

Link Posted 31/08/2009 - 02:20
MarkD wrote:
RR, there is a a bit more detail under the roof but I wanted the high contrast look. (The colour version of number 1 looks fairly flat and boring to be honest)

I suppose I could play about with these with a bit of fill or selective HDR but I don't do much post processing as I haven't really got the time ( or experience if I'm honest). Same reason I haven't fixed the corners of the colour one yet. Thats why the B&W is slightly cropped - it's quicker!

I think the whispy clouds in the B&W number 2 are what do it for me. It just puts a bit more interest in the top left compared to the colour one.

Barrie, I think it's just that the polarizer is almost twice as thick as the normal filter so it shows in the corners at 12mm. I don't have a UV filter for this lens yet but some people do recommend buying the (expensive) ultra thin type, others say it isn't necessary. But the front element does stick out a long way so I'll feel happier when the UV filter turns up.

I think going a bit wider on the left of number one would have helped.

Thanks for looking.

This is my favourite. I like it alot!




I also like this one:



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Karl

Link Posted 31/08/2009 - 04:24
No 2 by far and away the best. Dynamic composition with the sails, shadow and the mill it's self. Great detail in the sky with lot's of contrast. Highlight and shadow detail just right for me.

Put this side by side with the colour shot and the colour one looks like a RAW start image and nothing more to me.

Aiki

Link Posted 31/08/2009 - 10:32
MarkD wrote:
But.... after looking at it again it looks even less like a windmill that it did before.
I guess this teaches me to take a wider insurance shot after my attempt at "artistic framing" so I can reframe or crop it differently when I get it home and realise I've messed up again.....

It dependes on taste I do not care about "not looking like windmill".
For me it works - it IS windmill !. And I like the shadow
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