Banding

Mike-P
Posted 13/04/2012 - 10:38 Link
Just got back from Spain and before I left did some photos for a web site using the K-5 and 18-135mm. There is some serious banding in the sky which I have never seen before.

Link to file.
carmagw
Posted 13/04/2012 - 10:52 Link
I cann't open the picture (my pc software probably)

I've seen banding when using a polariser shot with a wide lens not sure if that helps.

Regards

George
Mannesty
Posted 13/04/2012 - 10:54 Link
I've just downloaded your file and opened it in ACR via PS-CS5.

I can see no banding at all.

I've played around with exposure, brightness, contrast etc. Nada.

By 'banding', do you mean the sky colour changing from white'ish at left, to blue at right?
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Edited by Mannesty: 13/04/2012 - 10:59
Mike-P
Posted 13/04/2012 - 10:57 Link
Strange .. wonder if it's my laptop screen.
Don't have it on any other pics though .. just ones I did that morning.
K10D
Posted 13/04/2012 - 10:58 Link
Opened in CS4, no banding.

Best regards
Too far from a shore.
redbusa99
Posted 13/04/2012 - 12:24 Link
opened in pse8 no banding Mike,
odd lens or 2

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ChrisA
Posted 13/04/2012 - 12:29 Link
You've overexposed the sky a bit - the blue and green channels are clipping a bit at the bright end. Hence the blue on the right, cyan in the middle, white on the left.

I suppose you could call it three bands in that sense, that merge into one another.

Is that what you mean?

I used to get it all the time on the K10D, it drove me crazy until I got used to exposing for sky, not foreground. The K-5 is much better in that regard.
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Edited by ChrisA: 13/04/2012 - 12:35
Aero
Posted 13/04/2012 - 13:38 Link
There was obvious banding in the sky when I first opened it on my netbook. Zoomed in and then out -- and the banding disappeared. It looks like a screen thing.

Al
cbrog
Posted 13/04/2012 - 15:05 Link
Opened your file in Pentax Dig.Cam.Utility 4 - banding very obvious.
I have seen this effect before but for the life of me, at the moment, I cannot remember where.

Must be a senior thing!

Roger.
SteveEveritt
Posted 13/04/2012 - 15:11 Link
I opened it too and the banding was there initially (Picasa viewer) then the colours changed themselves and the banding went away after a second or so.
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Edited by SteveEveritt: 13/04/2012 - 15:11
ChrisA
Posted 13/04/2012 - 16:50 Link
SteveEveritt wrote:
I opened it too and the banding was there initially (Picasa viewer) then the colours changed themselves and the banding went away after a second or so.
Using the Picasa viewer, I get that too, which is indeed horrible. Picasa is a bit funny with DNGs, though - it wouldn't display K-5 ones properly at all till recently, so heaven knows what it does with them.

I can't believe that's what Mike's seeing - the clipping is bad enough
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vjacesslav
Posted 13/04/2012 - 17:10 Link
In IrfanView i can see the banding all the time. In Lightroom no banding...
Mike-P
Posted 13/04/2012 - 17:12 Link
Its very strange .. If I view the file with Faststone I see the banding but load it into lightroom and there is none.

Edit the file and save as a jpeg .. view with Faststone and it's back.
WaypointCharlie
Posted 13/04/2012 - 17:12 Link
No banding here. I wonder whether it's an aliasing artifact when the image is displayed at an odd fraction of native resolution.

It looks to me like there's enough headroom left in the RAW file to recover from the clipping, if it bothers you. I've noticed the K-5 RAW files can cope with about one stop of clipping before things start getting messy, but then I normally enable highlight correction.
Edited by WaypointCharlie: 13/04/2012 - 17:15
Mike-P
Posted 13/04/2012 - 17:16 Link
Plus side is that we have plenty of oranges .. downside is that the previous owner planted a tree that produces fruit to make marmalade

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