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Posted 01/08/2008 - 23:51
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awarner wrote:
Seems OK to me. I have wiped your posts from my memory, and look forward to some carefully-considered and polite contributions from you in future.George Lazarette wrote:
Pots and kettles.
G
And now that's out of the way shall we forget the rash comments and look forward to making this site a community where all people feel welcome Pots and kettles.
G
And when you have a few dozen posts to your credit, please feel free to make suggestions about how to run this site.
G
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Posted 02/08/2008 - 00:16
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George Lazarette wrote:
And when you have a few dozen posts to your credit, please feel free to make suggestions about how to run this site.
G
LOL i feel embaressed for you!
awarner wrote:
Seems OK to me. I have wiped your posts from my memory, and look forward to some carefully-considered and polite contributions from you in future.George Lazarette wrote:
Pots and kettles.
G
And now that's out of the way shall we forget the rash comments and look forward to making this site a community where all people feel welcome Pots and kettles.
G
And when you have a few dozen posts to your credit, please feel free to make suggestions about how to run this site.
G
Posted 02/08/2008 - 07:05
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duroo72 wrote:
LOL i feel embaressed for you!
You just don't know when to stop, do you :
LOL i feel embaressed for you!
Posted 03/08/2008 - 14:40
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George Lazarette wrote:
And when you have a few dozen posts to your credit, please feel free to make suggestions about how to run this site.
See jumping to conclusions about people again.And when you have a few dozen posts to your credit, please feel free to make suggestions about how to run this site.
I take part and run numerous forums and have been an award by Microsoft in recognition for my contributions to online community forums.
As for post counts the main site I contribute to I'm well over 16k so please do not use the "I post more so I'm better than you" crap.
Life's too fast can I get off and walk for a bit?
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Posted 03/08/2008 - 14:53
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Well we could snipe at each other or we could talk about photography. The latter is encouraged!
Best regards, John
Posted 03/08/2008 - 15:30
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Hmmmmmm, seems to me some statements are really "Hot" these days, trying to make a point or something. (not that they succeed, for that matter)
First this:
Martin.
First this:
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duroo72 wrote:
A tutorial writer on a well known digital imaging magazine has commented that it is one of the best tiger images he has ever seen -
And now this:duroo72 wrote:
A tutorial writer on a well known digital imaging magazine has commented that it is one of the best tiger images he has ever seen -
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awarner wrote:
I take part and run numerous forums and have been an award by Microsoft in recognition for my contributions to online community forums.
Any chance the two of you are related?awarner wrote:
I take part and run numerous forums and have been an award by Microsoft in recognition for my contributions to online community forums.
Martin.
Posted 03/08/2008 - 16:09
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This forum is amazingly entertaining.
I haven't been here for long, but I feel that it is a normal aspect of modern society to respect the "elders". Be it the person who is older, or the one that has more posts, or the one that has actively participated more in the life of one particular 'society'.
Sarcasm, irony, little jokes against other people are only a stupid way of behaving. As John said "lets talk about photography" and not consider the fact that 'elders' have their own ways and words, and one might disagree, but still should respect.
Remember that we only know each other through little avatars, and written words; judging is un-necessary, and completely useless.
To conclude; whoever was criticizing George, let me tell you that aparts from the RARE harsh words, there is a whole lot to learn from him... so go on and have a proper photogaphy discussion!
Regards to all,
Nathan
I haven't been here for long, but I feel that it is a normal aspect of modern society to respect the "elders". Be it the person who is older, or the one that has more posts, or the one that has actively participated more in the life of one particular 'society'.
Sarcasm, irony, little jokes against other people are only a stupid way of behaving. As John said "lets talk about photography" and not consider the fact that 'elders' have their own ways and words, and one might disagree, but still should respect.
Remember that we only know each other through little avatars, and written words; judging is un-necessary, and completely useless.
To conclude; whoever was criticizing George, let me tell you that aparts from the RARE harsh words, there is a whole lot to learn from him... so go on and have a proper photogaphy discussion!
Regards to all,
Nathan
Posted 03/08/2008 - 19:29
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Sorry my handbrake cable snapped and i felt i had to post,
now then im not going to change my stance on this post im not going to name names or directly relate to anyone individual but after reading through several of the posts from the past i noticed a few conversations that had occured before i joined and they regarded to things such as "not being that friendly to new joiners" and "some people have an elitist attitude" and "one had reference to pack like mentality" from my necomers point of view i do feel that im made to feel not worthy and that some how my views arent required and the few suggestions ive made have been denegrated, im not saying this is everyone as i have had many good people giving me advice and appreciate that but this forum is about the members and if people like myself arent made to feel welcome we will go somewhere else - perhaps you want that? and some of you may reply with an acidic response if thats the case ill look somewhere else and advise my work colleague who just snapped up a k10 to perhaps look somewhere else for support and thought sharing - after all i was the one that sung my praises for the k10 i also have a friend who is looking into the dslr route what do i tell him? Maybe because i am a newcomer i could have shown a bit more respect to certain posters but then this is cyberspace and not reality as im sure we wouldnt talk to each other like this face to face in the street only recently i bumped into dogdirt up the top of a lighthouse in dungeness i didnt even know he was a forum member when we first started chatting about our pentax k10's, we had a smashing discussion about photography and this is when we found out we were both members , he has had his camera longer than mine , i listened with keen interest as he gave me advice and shared a few tips and i gave a couple back it was a pleasure to meet him - so what am i trying to say?
- We are all on here for one reason photography its not about whos right or wrong but the asking of questions , the sharing of knowledge , the giving of assistance , praise of ones work and the fact we had the wisdom to make the right purchase - This i why i joined and i hope i stay joined , Thankyou to all the genuine members that have assisted to me so far.
now then im not going to change my stance on this post im not going to name names or directly relate to anyone individual but after reading through several of the posts from the past i noticed a few conversations that had occured before i joined and they regarded to things such as "not being that friendly to new joiners" and "some people have an elitist attitude" and "one had reference to pack like mentality" from my necomers point of view i do feel that im made to feel not worthy and that some how my views arent required and the few suggestions ive made have been denegrated, im not saying this is everyone as i have had many good people giving me advice and appreciate that but this forum is about the members and if people like myself arent made to feel welcome we will go somewhere else - perhaps you want that? and some of you may reply with an acidic response if thats the case ill look somewhere else and advise my work colleague who just snapped up a k10 to perhaps look somewhere else for support and thought sharing - after all i was the one that sung my praises for the k10 i also have a friend who is looking into the dslr route what do i tell him? Maybe because i am a newcomer i could have shown a bit more respect to certain posters but then this is cyberspace and not reality as im sure we wouldnt talk to each other like this face to face in the street only recently i bumped into dogdirt up the top of a lighthouse in dungeness i didnt even know he was a forum member when we first started chatting about our pentax k10's, we had a smashing discussion about photography and this is when we found out we were both members , he has had his camera longer than mine , i listened with keen interest as he gave me advice and shared a few tips and i gave a couple back it was a pleasure to meet him - so what am i trying to say?
- We are all on here for one reason photography its not about whos right or wrong but the asking of questions , the sharing of knowledge , the giving of assistance , praise of ones work and the fact we had the wisdom to make the right purchase - This i why i joined and i hope i stay joined , Thankyou to all the genuine members that have assisted to me so far.
Posted 03/08/2008 - 21:03
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Calm down, man,
From the beginning you have reacted very strongly to the one negative criticism of your tiger photo, and thereby fanned the flames instead of dousing them.
My view, shared I think by most, was that it was an excellent capture, but over-sharpened.
Here's what was said, and your reply:
Take it easy, and you'll get along fine. I am hoping you'll be back with a better version of the tiger. It's a picture that justifies spending some effort on, and I look forward to seeing it as it deserves to be seen.
G
From the beginning you have reacted very strongly to the one negative criticism of your tiger photo, and thereby fanned the flames instead of dousing them.
My view, shared I think by most, was that it was an excellent capture, but over-sharpened.
Here's what was said, and your reply:
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So what's the significance of this tiger? Sorry, but no tiger looks like this. It has fur, not spikes.
Well, the original comment was certainly blunt, but it was also right. You over-reacted, and you then followed it up with a multitude of aggressive posts in a similar vein. So what's the significance of this tiger? Sorry, but no tiger looks like this. It has fur, not spikes.
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Are you intending to come across as a pompous arogant poster or is it just your style?
Are you intending to come across as a pompous arogant poster or is it just your style?
Take it easy, and you'll get along fine. I am hoping you'll be back with a better version of the tiger. It's a picture that justifies spending some effort on, and I look forward to seeing it as it deserves to be seen.
G
Keywords: Charming, polite, and generally agreeable.
Posted 03/08/2008 - 22:08
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Im totally calm george that post was left in good spirits.
I just wished you read every word carefully in my last post and Interpreted them the way intended. All youve done is reply to me in a patronising manner like you have done to other forum members here in this very post string.
Please read this:
golfdiesel wrote:
I'd like to quote a couple of lines from the interview with Benjamin Kanarek in the latest Pentax user mag. Page 11, last paragraph.
"My advice to anyone is that when it comes to photography there is no right or wrong. If you want to totally blow out your highlights then do it, there is no-one who can tell you that your picture is overexposed if that was your artistic intention. If they tell you it's wron them I'm sure their work is very pedestrian and utterly boring. You can't hurt anyone by experimenting through photography. I wouldn't give the same advice to a brain surgeon though"
I believe that Bejamin Kanarek is absolutely right with the above, you have to take the pictures that YOU like and process them in the way that YOU think is right.
I like the Tiger the Tiger REMAINS as is!!

I just wished you read every word carefully in my last post and Interpreted them the way intended. All youve done is reply to me in a patronising manner like you have done to other forum members here in this very post string.
Please read this:
golfdiesel wrote:
I'd like to quote a couple of lines from the interview with Benjamin Kanarek in the latest Pentax user mag. Page 11, last paragraph.
"My advice to anyone is that when it comes to photography there is no right or wrong. If you want to totally blow out your highlights then do it, there is no-one who can tell you that your picture is overexposed if that was your artistic intention. If they tell you it's wron them I'm sure their work is very pedestrian and utterly boring. You can't hurt anyone by experimenting through photography. I wouldn't give the same advice to a brain surgeon though"
I believe that Bejamin Kanarek is absolutely right with the above, you have to take the pictures that YOU like and process them in the way that YOU think is right.
I like the Tiger the Tiger REMAINS as is!!
Posted 03/08/2008 - 22:10
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Like this one!
[IMG]http://i517.photobucket.com/albums/u332/nathanever82/Tiger.jpg[/IMG]
The weird white areas are the almost removed bars that didn't allow the peaceful tiger to eat me!
[IMG]http://i517.photobucket.com/albums/u332/nathanever82/Tiger.jpg[/IMG]
The weird white areas are the almost removed bars that didn't allow the peaceful tiger to eat me!
Posted 03/08/2008 - 22:20
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duroo72 wrote:
I believe that Bejamin Kanarek is absolutely right with the above, you have to take the pictures that YOU like and process them in the way that YOU think is right.
I like the Tiger the Tiger REMAINS as is!!
When you post a picture here, you implicitly invite criticism. If you are happy with your tiger, that's fine, but don't expect everybody to agree with you, and if all you want is praise, then there may be better places to post.I believe that Bejamin Kanarek is absolutely right with the above, you have to take the pictures that YOU like and process them in the way that YOU think is right.
I like the Tiger the Tiger REMAINS as is!!
G
Keywords: Charming, polite, and generally agreeable.
Posted 03/08/2008 - 22:22
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You know what'd be cool?
A seperate column, called the "Boxing Ring and Flame Throwing Arena"
That way those who obviously enjoy heated debates, can open a new thread, and carry on, without hijacking, what usually starts off as an interesting topic....
(I know, I know, I'm as guilty as some and more guilty than others...but really, WHERE"S THE FLAMETHROWER BUTTON I asked for?).
A seperate column, called the "Boxing Ring and Flame Throwing Arena"
That way those who obviously enjoy heated debates, can open a new thread, and carry on, without hijacking, what usually starts off as an interesting topic....
(I know, I know, I'm as guilty as some and more guilty than others...but really, WHERE"S THE FLAMETHROWER BUTTON I asked for?).
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Something I have done since first starting out in photography almost 50 yrs ago.
But it good to have the option and AF does come into its own at times.
And the focus confirmaion in view finder is a great asset.