Another pointless thread

alun
Posted 27/12/2011 - 10:06 Link
If you use concrete posts they will have to be set in concrete and it can be awkward to fit the intermediate panels. Aesthetically, timber looks better than concrete, and the early rotting can be prevented by using treated timber posts on post spikes (B&Q etc), driven into the ground. These lift the base of the posts above the ground. You then have a lot more flexibility for the panels and could maybe re-use some of the original planks. If wind is a problem, use hit & miss vertical boarding, which allows wind to pass through but maintains privacy:

http://www.southern-timber.co.uk/gbu0-prodshow/hit_and_miss.htm

Lets see the photos of the finished product!
techno-terminator
Posted 27/12/2011 - 10:22 Link
Taa guys

Snag is that the fence is joint . whatever we stick up has to be maintained and I can't see that being done properly [ I'll organise my side's regular timber treatment but the other side will need to be done as well ]

You've certainly given me some thoughts and I'll let them sink in and simmer and we'll see what comes up. We used to have a 3 foot wall , but that wasn't enough so that was removed and well - this mess is the result.
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Algernon
Posted 27/12/2011 - 10:26 Link
Most of these panels are permanently treated and don't need
any further maintenance. I've go some that have been up for
20 years and haven't need treating. The concrete is still as
new so I can just replace the timber bits when I need to
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Algi
techno-terminator
Posted 27/12/2011 - 10:58 Link
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Here's the mess As you can see there were horizontal planks on each side of the uprights. Originally it was full height for about the first 3 sections , then it dropped roughly 1 plank for the next 2 and then another 1 plank drop for the last part , but in the reconstruction [ done by 12 year old boy and his Uncle ] the whole thing got to be full height
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Algernon
Posted 27/12/2011 - 12:47 Link
It looks like you just need someone to repair what's there
and if possible use the blown over materials. Any fencer/joiner
would be able to do that...... Local paper or newsagents or
watch out for someone doing a fence nearby.

If it's wind/storm damage can you claim on your house insurance?
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techno-terminator
Posted 27/12/2011 - 13:18 Link
Doubt that a claim would be successful - one look at the base of the uprights and they would probably say lack of maintenance - They would be right too - when the timber treatment was done last [ after my kitchen was done , only the planks on my side were treated . Sadly a lot of the stuff that's come off has been bowed so I'm not sure if it could be re-used.

I really don't want to spend a huge amount - daughter #2's wedding coming up. I had also seriously been thinking of the K5 with the SRS price and the £90 cashback BUT now - not a chance [ I got fed up with the lousy weather and thought that at least with a WR camera I could get out a bit more ]
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Edited by techno-terminator: 27/12/2011 - 13:19
greynolds999
Posted 27/12/2011 - 15:36 Link
Any boundary fence is the joint responsibility between you and your neighbours, so in theory if they refuse to maintain or fix it (and you've written to them) you can get the job done and charge them for half. As far as I understand the law, there is nothing to force the neighbour to maintain the fence, but failure to maintain could affect the "common interest" and therefore make them liable.

Unfortunately in practice it isn't that easy. Best advice would be to speak to the council and/or Citizens Advice to see if there is anything that can be done. After that, you would either need a solicitor (never cheap) or to come to an arrangement.

However, if they want a large fence then let them pay for it. If you are happy with a small fence then fine, but (if I understand you correctly) if they expect you to build the fence they want then you really should tell them where to go!
techno-terminator
Posted 27/12/2011 - 17:03 Link
If I have to build a total new fence it will be as I want and on MY ground
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Hardgravity
Posted 27/12/2011 - 19:25 Link
I'm with Algi on this one TT, a good fencer should be able to replace the posts and replank with the good lengths. He may need to buy some replacements, but the price for a repair should be a lot lower than the price for replacement.

I seem to recall that boundary fences in England are the joint responsibility of both parties, whether that applies to Scotland I don't know.

On a lighter note, my good lady and I went to the sales this morning, where all the people were is a mystery. We did spend a small fortune on 3 new kitchen knives.

Very pretty they are too..
Cheers, HG

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techno-terminator
Posted 27/12/2011 - 19:44 Link
Now I need to find a proper fencer , who knows what he's doing . I've a nice wee handyman who has done my reconstructions so far - but I think this is not his style .

Also I want the uprights to be properly protected , set in , what have you. I really don't want to be replacing stuff every year or two.

HG - how on earth did you get away with buying just 3 knives ?
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Algernon
Posted 27/12/2011 - 19:48 Link
Three knives????

Three holes!..... Well.... Well.... Well....
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greynolds999
Posted 27/12/2011 - 21:12 Link
techno-terminator wrote:
HG - how on earth did you get away with buying just 3 knives ?
Maybe they only have one guest over at a time?
techno-terminator
Posted 27/12/2011 - 21:36 Link
Whoopeeeee

I've just found the original invoice for the fencing It was done in 1996 !

I'll phone them tomorrow and see if they are still in business
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Hardgravity
Posted 27/12/2011 - 21:41 Link
The three knives are a carver, a 17.5cm santoku and a paring knife. This site has them on, but their prices are double what we paid!

I could have got a DA35 f2.4 for the price, but you can't cut meat with a lens!!

Hope the fence firm's still going TT, it'll make life a little easier.
Cheers, HG

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Mustn't forget the Zenits, or folders, or...

PPG entries.
techno-terminator
Posted 27/12/2011 - 22:09 Link
HG - that's exactly what I thought - I can but try

Yelp - looking those those full price knives - you almost need a mortgage for that !
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