Another pointless thread
Posted 14/03/2011 - 17:39
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In Sweden it made sense
But the story goes that lorries changed to the right on one day and cars the day after!!In Sweden it made sense
Swedish logic?
I passed my bike test many centuries ago, had a spell as a riding instructor which ended one very cold wet winter 24 years ago. The students just didn't want to go out in bad weather!
At the time training was voluntary so earning a living was impossible.
Then the government got involved in 'road safety' and things have just gone from bad to incredibly worse!!!
Have a good time at the cottage Tony, don't forget a wide angle lens for the scenery.
Cheers, HG
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Posted 14/03/2011 - 18:24
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Why is in an illegal speed? Surely motorbikes are ridden at more than 30mph in England on roads which allow it - and have to brake suddenly whilst swerving on said roads too. I can think of at least one 40mph road to which that could very easily apply. And on Motorways too -what if a vehicle shed it's load or a tyre drops off a lorry - the motorbike has to be able to avoid that successfully while doing 70+.
Changing sides of the road in Sweden took place on a Sunday - September 3rd 1967 and applied to all vehicles.
Changing sides of the road in Sweden took place on a Sunday - September 3rd 1967 and applied to all vehicles.
Posted 14/03/2011 - 18:53
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Gwyn wrote:
It's a Fiat Punto Stefan. maybe you mean a Polo?
Here they all learn to drive in Beemers and Audis with the occasional Passat.
yes sorry
It's a Fiat Punto Stefan. maybe you mean a Polo?
Here they all learn to drive in Beemers and Audis with the occasional Passat.
Stefan
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Posted 14/03/2011 - 19:06
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cardiff_gareth wrote:
Back in the day instructors had to teach slowing down the car by using the gears or easing off the gas pedel, smoother and more fuel efficient drive. Now we teach slowing the car down in whatever gear your in by using the footbrake as this shows the driver behind you the car is slowing down.
So for example if we're in a 40 zone going to a 30 then we brake to 30 not ease off gas or go down a gear as this doesn't show the brakelights. Another example is say the lights are red as you approach and your travelling at 30/40mph in 4th gear then you brake and stop in that 4th gear, awaiting for the car to stop, handbrake up and back into first ready. Back in the day pupils would of been taught going to third then 2nd and eventually first as the car slowed down. 2 examples of how different lessons are now and the techniques the examiner is now looking for and also what he's watching for you not to do.
Here it's different, it's all about "green" driving and such.Back in the day instructors had to teach slowing down the car by using the gears or easing off the gas pedel, smoother and more fuel efficient drive. Now we teach slowing the car down in whatever gear your in by using the footbrake as this shows the driver behind you the car is slowing down.
So for example if we're in a 40 zone going to a 30 then we brake to 30 not ease off gas or go down a gear as this doesn't show the brakelights. Another example is say the lights are red as you approach and your travelling at 30/40mph in 4th gear then you brake and stop in that 4th gear, awaiting for the car to stop, handbrake up and back into first ready. Back in the day pupils would of been taught going to third then 2nd and eventually first as the car slowed down. 2 examples of how different lessons are now and the techniques the examiner is now looking for and also what he's watching for you not to do.
At least 2 years ago.
Handbrake up and staying in 4th gear at a traffic light, that would be a fail here most likely.
I've learned to slow down in the gear you're in untill the engine begins to struggle and you need to use the clutch. Then when you're at a complete stop i had to put it in 1ste gear and with the clutch "almost" on so you can accelerate faster/sooner. Even at small hils/slopes we had to play with the clutch so the car didn't roll back...
btw i wouldn't mind that you need to do a new theortic (refresh) test when you need a new driving licenses.
My grandpa for example know nothing of the new rules...
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Posted 14/03/2011 - 19:12
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Today is Pi day. An American invention since it wouldn't work using European date notation.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pi_Day
Pi to 1 million digits; http://www.piday.org/million.php
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pi_Day
Pi to 1 million digits; http://www.piday.org/million.php
Posted 14/03/2011 - 19:22
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Gwyn wrote:
My comments were intended as a joke, first made by the late Tommy Cooper, I believe.Frogherder wrote:
The next thing to worry about will be driving on the right (wrong) side of the road.
I think this could be a disaster in the UK - it took me 2 hours to get home yesterday
Why would driving on the right affect your travel times?The next thing to worry about will be driving on the right (wrong) side of the road.
I think this could be a disaster in the UK - it took me 2 hours to get home yesterday
The final two sentences are mutually independant, but arranged to make it look as if I was driving against the legal direction.
Posted 14/03/2011 - 21:14
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Frogherder wrote:
My comments were intended as a joke, first made by the late Tommy Cooper, I believe.
The final two sentences are mutually independant, but arranged to make it look as if I was driving against the legal direction.
Sorry a bit dense today .My comments were intended as a joke, first made by the late Tommy Cooper, I believe.
The final two sentences are mutually independant, but arranged to make it look as if I was driving against the legal direction.
It was my husband's birthday on Friday. As he was in France for it he had cake at work today. He brought the remains home - that will go on and on I fear.
Sadly they ate all the good stuff and left us with the creamy sickly stuff. The company he works for (as opposed to the one where he works) provide the creamy sickly cake, he provided a couple of lovely fruit pies (vlaai). He was hoping it would go by unmarked this year - but the cake was delivered this morning so he went out and got the vlaai as an alternative.
No doubt he'll have to buy cake again in a month when his contract ends .
Posted 14/03/2011 - 21:16
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I got a mail today (I'm off for a week) with an invitation to "some cake", with no reasons given.... just a time. So I'll go and ask what's going on when I get back into the office
Bret
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Posted 14/03/2011 - 21:20
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Gwyn wrote:
Ah. Here the test is in two parts - one at a test centre where you do 7 if 12 special manoeuvres, walking with the bike, low speed manoeuvres, high speed mane=oeuvres and braking manoeuvres. You need to pass 5 of them, and you can repeat each one once during the exam if you fail at it the first time. If you pass that then you go on to do a test on the road - often instructors wait until you have part one of the test before even taking you out on the road anyway. You have 12 months between passing part one in which to get part two.
You also have to pass a theory exam before you can do the road test. If you have a car licence you can ride on the roads without the theory exam but you still have to take it (and pass!) before the practical. If you don't have a car licence you must pass the theory exam before being allowed on the roads.
Part 1 of what you describe is very much the CBT (compulsory basic training) in UK. All riders need this before being allowed on the road. Then there used to be the test which allowed riders to carry a passenger and/or ride a bike over 125cc.Ah. Here the test is in two parts - one at a test centre where you do 7 if 12 special manoeuvres, walking with the bike, low speed manoeuvres, high speed mane=oeuvres and braking manoeuvres. You need to pass 5 of them, and you can repeat each one once during the exam if you fail at it the first time. If you pass that then you go on to do a test on the road - often instructors wait until you have part one of the test before even taking you out on the road anyway. You have 12 months between passing part one in which to get part two.
You also have to pass a theory exam before you can do the road test. If you have a car licence you can ride on the roads without the theory exam but you still have to take it (and pass!) before the practical. If you don't have a car licence you must pass the theory exam before being allowed on the roads.
After the changes, it took chief instructor over an hour to teach us who could ride what. That is more or less when I gave up instructing (although swapping my Honda for a Ducati was also a factor).
Posted 14/03/2011 - 21:54
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Ah the instructor's bike.
WHen I did do it I had a Yamaha RD400..LINK... mine was the last model in white and red.
When you passed a pupil on the back wheel to stop him you got respect!
WHen I did do it I had a Yamaha RD400..LINK... mine was the last model in white and red.
When you passed a pupil on the back wheel to stop him you got respect!
Cheers, HG
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Posted 16/03/2011 - 18:25
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-4 already here, expecting -16.
At least the garage looks a bit better now, I've got access to a painting booth elsewhere (at a price, mind, which I don't know yet). Now I just need to clear the junk and sort other stuff out and away we go. Needs to be done in two weeks....
Bret
At least the garage looks a bit better now, I've got access to a painting booth elsewhere (at a price, mind, which I don't know yet). Now I just need to clear the junk and sort other stuff out and away we go. Needs to be done in two weeks....
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This has resulted in a massive reduction in the number of test centres. Maybe only a quarter of the previous number - but Gareth will have a better view of that I'd expect.
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