Another pointless thread

Freelanders are IT. Live in the sticks. Don't want a bigma 4x4 not good for the tight lanes. And the road clearance performance is better than a full on Range Rover, let alone the other 'fashionable' marcs.

Not going out to play while I still have bronchitis - I want this pestilence cleared up .

And we should not be getting white stuff now

Not quite - there was plenty in Oxgangs, but we're special out here. For some reason it's always a degree or two colder than the rest of Edinburgh. (I watch the temperature readout in my car - drive away from Oxgangs, it gets warmer, drive back towards it, it gets colder. Without fail). As a result we always get it here when it's just borderline and the rest of Edinburgh gets away with it. It also lingers longer here than anywhere else in Edinburgh.

Discovery is smaller than you'd think, at least the original TDI models are. Apparently it's only about 50cm longer than the new Mini 4x4 thing and probably no wider. I know mine can get into and out of all sorts of unlikely locations without bending things.

My favourite trick is getting it into supermarket parking spaces in one go. I generally walk past several people fiddling around and failing miserably to park far smaller vehicles on my way into the shop!

I used to do that with my old series 2 SWB Landy...

... made a heck of a mess of the other cars though!

They used to say " Where does the guy with the old Land Rover park?"

Went to see 'The Kings Speech' last night, I was the youngest member of the audience, now that's novel, Great film by the way.

I had to go to see "The Kings Speech" as taxi driver for the boss. However I have to admit the picture did surprise me by holding my interest all the way through, and I think Mr Firth deserves his awards.

I don't get that. I can park my Kangoo in a supermarket (or any other car park space) in one go. I could park the massive old diesel no power steering Peugeot we used to have in a parking space in one go, even parallel parking the damn thing. I had muscles Arnie would have been proud of, driving that thing .
Either you can park or you can't. It's all part of how well you were trained as a learner.

I was pleasantly surprised that it held my attention all, the time flew by, usually a good sign for me.

That Colin Firth Chap will never make it as an actor, not with a speech impediment like that

We saw it a few weeks ago, 10/10, what amazed me was how young the Queen Mother looked

IMO learning to drive the official way has been reduced to driving by numbers. Travel at these speeds and you'll be safe, do this, do that. They don't seem interested in training people to think and analyse and feel.

The basic problem is the idea that everyone can drive. I just don't think some people have the general awareness to do it properly. They don't understand how to feel what the car is doing and act accordingly.

...the answer to the question, "any where he likes!!"

As for driving,ABS traction control, power steering and the rest, they make it easy for any idiot to point a box in (roughly) the right direction.

But when things get 'iffy' they're worse than useless!

Kids think that a Corsa is a good car because they learn in them, look how many destroy their cars, and unfortunately themselves.

Teach them all to drive in a car that handles like a bucket on castors with no gimmicks and they'd be much better drivers.

Rant over!

... which is another reason you have to pass a skidpan test here before you're allowed out. OTOH, I'd like to send most Finnish drivers to Germany for a course in anticipation and serious traffic as here they have *no clue* - and the brits aren't much better, either.

Bret

I'm one of the few folk that I know who ALWAYS reverses into a parking place . It's much safer that way .

I was taught to reverse in my present garden - but then it had lots of wee curving walls round flower beds and I was made to learn to reverse that way - reversing round the garden. I hated it - but it was a good way to learn .

I was also taught to use my mirrors for reversing , and I still do

Ahh, the Corsa...

We had one briefly, it was scarily bad. I really don't think it's a good first car at all, simply because it feels narrow and top-heavy. If I had to take one of those or my Discovery around the Nurburgring I'd take the Discovery on a decent set of A/Ts any day, it's just much, much easier to throw around!

I learned in a Citroen ZX diesel which didn't have any electronic aids, but which did handle very predictably and rewarded smooth driving as it didn't have a huge amount of power, so the more speed you could carry through a corner the faster progress you could make.