Airshow question
Posted 16/08/2009 - 12:24
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on at least i always have it on for my birds in flight shots.
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Posted 16/08/2009 - 12:26
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for moving objects it should be of as it can add blur,
still birds on, birds in flight off,
still birds on, birds in flight off,
just keep snapping,
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sigma 150-500mm apo dg hsm os
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Posted 16/08/2009 - 12:48
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Another vote for 'on'.
Posted 16/08/2009 - 12:51
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The SR doesn't add blur. It's using a slow shutter speed that does that - and with SR you may be inclined to use a slow shutter speed.
What SR does is compensate for camera shake. It can't freeze a moving object.
So there is no point in using SR for fast moving subjects, because the subject will dictate a fast shutter speed, thus making SR unnecessary. But if you have it on, it won't hurt. It won't "add blur".
I tend to leave it on all the time, unless using a tripod.
G
What SR does is compensate for camera shake. It can't freeze a moving object.
So there is no point in using SR for fast moving subjects, because the subject will dictate a fast shutter speed, thus making SR unnecessary. But if you have it on, it won't hurt. It won't "add blur".
I tend to leave it on all the time, unless using a tripod.
G
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Posted 16/08/2009 - 13:23
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I second "Grumpy" George. If you think your shutter speed might get on the "low" side, leave it on. Especially with long lenses.
Yves (another one of those crazy Canucks)
Posted 16/08/2009 - 13:25
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George Lazarette wrote:
The SR doesn't add blur.
Indeed. I think this is another one of these unsubstantiated myths that are entirely without foundation, and would be almost impossible to test.The SR doesn't add blur.
Imagine a camera that was moving at constant speed in a straight line. The accelerometers that measure shake (in order to tell the electronics to move the sensor in a direction countering the shake) would detect nothing at all.
Superimpose shake on that movement, and the sensors would detect it in the same way as they detect it in an otherwise stationary camera, and counter it in exactly the same way.
Of course, panning a camera by hand is only an approximation to such steady movement, and it's not impossible that if you accelerated the camera suddenly to follow the subject, and pressed the button at the same time, the camera might be attempting to correct for what it had suddenly detected as shake.
But even then, it would be impossible to know that that had happened, and in any case, the camera's SR wouldn't yet have stabilised - and as we know from Matt's experiments on that topic, unstabilised SR can be worse than no SR at all.
However, none of this comes even close to substantiating a claim that SR on a panning camera causes blur. My panning isn't bad, but I couldn't claim to be able to pan the camera steadily enough to be able to tell the difference between SR on and off with an already fast shutter speeed.
I say leave it on.
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Posted 16/08/2009 - 13:35
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ChrisA wrote:
However, none of this comes even close to substantiating a claim that SR on a panning camera causes blur. My panning isn't bad, but I couldn't claim to be able to pan the camera steadily enough to be able to tell the difference between SR on and off with an already fast shutter speeed.
I say leave it on.
Same here.However, none of this comes even close to substantiating a claim that SR on a panning camera causes blur. My panning isn't bad, but I couldn't claim to be able to pan the camera steadily enough to be able to tell the difference between SR on and off with an already fast shutter speeed.
I say leave it on.
I've tried on and off while panning an autosport race and I couldn't see a difference between the two but since we don't see a difference we might say that SR does not help with panning
Posted 16/08/2009 - 13:42
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It's not a great shot, but this...
[IMG]http://i670.photobucket.com/albums/vv67/alasdairdouglas/Slow.jpg[/IMG]
...was taken handheld with my old M200/4 and a 1/10th second shutter speed.
I have SR on almost all the time!
Al.
[IMG]http://i670.photobucket.com/albums/vv67/alasdairdouglas/Slow.jpg[/IMG]
...was taken handheld with my old M200/4 and a 1/10th second shutter speed.
I have SR on almost all the time!
Al.
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Posted 16/08/2009 - 14:08
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Conky wrote:
It's not a great shot, but this...
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...was taken handheld with my old M200/4 and a 1/10th second shutter speed.
Actually with a bit of levels adjustment and a little sharpening, I think you might be surprised how good that can look, if you'll forgive my taking the liberty.It's not a great shot, but this...
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...was taken handheld with my old M200/4 and a 1/10th second shutter speed.
It was hovering, presumably, so isn't quite germane to this topic, but handheld, for 1/10s at that focal length, that is excellent.
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Posted 16/08/2009 - 14:41
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ChrisA, consider yourself forgiven!
Nice work. My PP leaves a lot to be desired.
Nice work. My PP leaves a lot to be desired.
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Posted 16/08/2009 - 15:59
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Another vote for on.
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