A Short Lesson in Composition
Posted 12/03/2010 - 00:37
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Oh I see. I wouldn't have a clue how to use the channel mixer I just click the monochrome button in Aperture, and choose what colour filter from a drop down menu! But now I look at it I see it's called 'monochrome mixer'
Tim
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Posted 12/03/2010 - 09:38
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Oh no, Tim. Do I have to admit I've been found out...sloth has undone me, I'm afraid. When Robbie suggested having just one daf yellow I took the easy option and just sselected and desaturated the yellow ones on the reight. Should, of course, have done it properly. The trouble is with this site is one just can't get away with anything...
Nice conversion, by the way. But I still think it needs the colour popped!
Thanks for your efforts,
Andrew
Nice conversion, by the way. But I still think it needs the colour popped!
Thanks for your efforts,
Andrew
Best wishes,
Andrew
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Andrew
"These places mean something and it's the job of a photographer to figure-out what the hell it is."
Robert Adams
"The camera doesn't make a bit of difference. All of them can record what you are seeing. But, you have to SEE."
Ernst Hass
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Posted 12/03/2010 - 13:42
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cardiff_gareth wrote:
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I like the second also, not your typical composition but it works really well I think maybe a landscape crop on the trees with a balance of foreground and sky could be nice also
A bit like this you mean, Gareth?[
I like the second also, not your typical composition but it works really well I think maybe a landscape crop on the trees with a balance of foreground and sky could be nice also
[IMG]http://i927.photobucket.com/albums/ad116/ADC3440/Pictures1120a.jpg[/IMG]
I took the precaution of photographing the scene in landscape as well, thinking that someone might make the suggestion...
Sorry about the leek, crack!
Best wishes,
Andrew
Best wishes,
Andrew
"These places mean something and it's the job of a photographer to figure-out what the hell it is."
Robert Adams
"The camera doesn't make a bit of difference. All of them can record what you are seeing. But, you have to SEE."
Ernst Hass
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Andrew
"These places mean something and it's the job of a photographer to figure-out what the hell it is."
Robert Adams
"The camera doesn't make a bit of difference. All of them can record what you are seeing. But, you have to SEE."
Ernst Hass
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Posted 12/03/2010 - 13:52
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thoughton wrote:
Oh, you explained it fine Andrew I just didn't know what to say apart from simply agreeing with you, so I critiqued the photo I wasn't so keen on (there was nothing to improve in the other one!)
About the BW daffs, I don't quite understand why they went grey. When I convert your first image I get white daffs with both a straight conversion and red/orange/yellow/green filter conversions, and black daffs with a blue filter one. This is an orange filter BW conversion of your first shot in Aperture:
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If you were to leave the right hand daff on this one yellow, I think it would work great. Because it's all on it's own it looks like it's being "ignored" by the others, but having it in colour would give it an ugly duckling turning into a swan feeling (probably doesn;t make much sense!!).Oh, you explained it fine Andrew I just didn't know what to say apart from simply agreeing with you, so I critiqued the photo I wasn't so keen on (there was nothing to improve in the other one!)
About the BW daffs, I don't quite understand why they went grey. When I convert your first image I get white daffs with both a straight conversion and red/orange/yellow/green filter conversions, and black daffs with a blue filter one. This is an orange filter BW conversion of your first shot in Aperture:
Not sure why Andrew's conversion had them go grey, in that case I think they're better all yellow, but with this one Tim, I think it would work with just one.
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Apparently.
Posted 12/03/2010 - 13:53
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bwichmawr wrote:
[IMG]http://i927.photobucket.com/albums/ad116/ADC3440/Pictures1120a.jpg[/IMG]
I took the precaution of photographing the scene in landscape as well, thinking that someone might make the suggestion...
Sorry about the leek, crack!
Best wishes,
Andrew
Nice crop Andrew, works better for me than the original.cardiff_gareth wrote:
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I like the second also, not your typical composition but it works really well I think maybe a landscape crop on the trees with a balance of foreground and sky could be nice also
A bit like this you mean, Gareth?[
I like the second also, not your typical composition but it works really well I think maybe a landscape crop on the trees with a balance of foreground and sky could be nice also
[IMG]http://i927.photobucket.com/albums/ad116/ADC3440/Pictures1120a.jpg[/IMG]
I took the precaution of photographing the scene in landscape as well, thinking that someone might make the suggestion...
Sorry about the leek, crack!
Best wishes,
Andrew
(edit: It has been brought to my attention it's not a crop! Serves me right for trying to post on here and do work at the same time!)
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Posted 12/03/2010 - 13:55
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Thanks, Robbie,
Actually it's not a crop, but a different photo from the same spot just taken in landscape!
Regards,
Andrew
Actually it's not a crop, but a different photo from the same spot just taken in landscape!
Regards,
Andrew
Best wishes,
Andrew
"These places mean something and it's the job of a photographer to figure-out what the hell it is."
Robert Adams
"The camera doesn't make a bit of difference. All of them can record what you are seeing. But, you have to SEE."
Ernst Hass
My website: http://www.ephotozine.com/user/bwlchmawr-199050
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https://www.flickr.com/photos/78898196@N05
Andrew
"These places mean something and it's the job of a photographer to figure-out what the hell it is."
Robert Adams
"The camera doesn't make a bit of difference. All of them can record what you are seeing. But, you have to SEE."
Ernst Hass
My website: http://www.ephotozine.com/user/bwlchmawr-199050
http://s927.photobucket.com/home/ADC3440/index
https://www.flickr.com/photos/78898196@N05
Posted 12/03/2010 - 13:58
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bwichmawr wrote:
Thanks, Robbie,
Actually it's not a crop, but a different photo from the same spot just taken in landscape!
Regards,
Andrew
Doh!Thanks, Robbie,
Actually it's not a crop, but a different photo from the same spot just taken in landscape!
Regards,
Andrew
I've just read your comment below the original post!
More haste, less speed Robert...
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Posted 14/03/2010 - 14:32
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Andrew
Even further information to add to my knowledge after the help of all with the Drax shot.
Paul
Even further information to add to my knowledge after the help of all with the Drax shot.
Paul
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About the BW daffs, I don't quite understand why they went grey
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