'RAW + JPG' !?

niklas
Posted 27/11/2009 - 19:56 Link
I Shoot RAW+JPG in highest resolution on my K20D.

Workflow is:

All boring shots are thrown out no matter JPG or RAW.

All pictures related to plain family, vacation, party etc. without any artistic value in the motiv but worth keeping; I throw out all these in RAW format and keep the JPGs.

Photos with a motiv of any artistic value; I keep both and work on the RAW file until better than the JPG that came along from camera.
After RAW is worked through to a good JPG, I might throw out the Camera-JPG.

Niklas
15mm - 450mm equivalent, and still can't reach...
Edited by niklas: 27/11/2009 - 20:07
golfdiesel
Posted 27/11/2009 - 20:56 Link
stu49 wrote:
mattcambs wrote:
I shoot RAW + JPEG (lowest size and quality) so that I can view the images on the camera.
Surely u can do this with just raw files !? No need for jpg at all !!
or am I missing something ??
Exactly there allready is a low quality JPEG in the RAW file.
What I can imaging is that if you use a imagetank with a large reviewing display then the JPEG can come in handy. Not all imagetanks can display RAW files.
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Road_Dancer
Posted 27/11/2009 - 21:17 Link
I found it very useful when taking photos of family events. I'll want to be playing around in PP afterwards, but the family always want to see the results there and then.

So rather then faff about pulling the JPGs from the RAWs, or anything else likely to be too much for the little Netbook my Wife and I cart around, I can just coppy all the JPGs from the card, and set a slideshow going for the Family to see.

Then, when I get home, I can play around with the RAWs to my hearts content.

Family get instant gratification. I get to tweak at home. Everyone's a Winner.
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PeteL
Posted 30/11/2009 - 16:33 Link
I don`t use Jpegs in my everyday Photograpy, I shoot for a Stock Photolibrary, They only accept Tiff Files in Adobe colour space, Cconverted from RAW so this is the way i work, If i need the occasional Jpeg then i use the RAW + Jpeg button (or make an extra conversion from the RAW file).

Regards - Pete
Dr. Mhuni
Posted 01/12/2009 - 08:24 Link
You can get the embedded jpeg from your RAW files using the free download 'Raw workflow instant jpeg from RAW' at link. Been meaning to try this for yonks but never got round to it. But it does seem quite a handy application.

I currently use RAW only, and find that going through the RAW files in Silkypix is a useful - if time conusuming - part of the editing process.
Mhuni

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stu49
Posted 01/12/2009 - 18:07 Link
PeteL wrote:
I don`t use Jpegs in my everyday Photograpy, I shoot for a Stock Photolibrary, They only accept Tiff Files in Adobe colour space, Cconverted from RAW so this is the way i work, If i need the occasional Jpeg then i use the RAW + Jpeg button (or make an extra conversion from the RAW file).

Regards - Pete
That's unusual, all the one's I supply to accept ONLY jpeg !?

Which one's are they ??

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stu49
Posted 01/12/2009 - 18:16 Link
Dr. Mhuni wrote:
You can get the embedded jpeg from your RAW files using the free download 'Raw workflow instant jpeg from RAW' at link. Been meaning to try this for yonks but never got round to it. But it does seem quite a handy application.

I currently use RAW only, and find that going through the RAW files in Silkypix is a useful - if time conusuming - part of the editing process.
Seems to work well nice one !

Right click on PEF to select !! easy !

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So much to learn... So little time !
Edited by stu49: 01/12/2009 - 18:17
Mongoose
Posted 01/12/2009 - 19:04 Link
if you're comfortable with the command line, dcraw is fantastic for extracting jpegs from RAW.

put the executable somewhere in your path statement, then go to the directory containing the .PEFs and type

dcraw -e *.PEF

and as if by magic all the JPGs will apear.

Maybe its because I started using PCs before Windows was available, but I never understand why people consider clicking and dragging all over the place to be easier than a nice little wildcard on the command line.
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KZ
Posted 02/12/2009 - 14:35 Link
stu49 wrote:
mattcambs wrote:
I shoot RAW + JPEG (lowest size and quality) so that I can view the images on the camera.
Surely u can do this with just raw files !? No need for jpg at all !!
or am I missing something ??
In the age of low priced high capacity memory cards and rather fast cameras I can not see any reason to shoot in JPG other than you want to use the pictures immediately after shooting. Or am i wrong?
Greytop
Posted 02/12/2009 - 14:38 Link
KZ wrote:
In the age of low priced high capacity memory cards and rather fast cameras I can not see any reason to shoot in JPG other than you want to use the pictures immediately after shooting. Or am i wrong?
Yes I would agree, it's certainly my preference.
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mattcambs
Posted 02/12/2009 - 22:06 Link
No, you are right
I have absolutely no idea why I thought that.

Ok, so my reason for shooting RAW + JPEG(2M) is for quick browsing on the laptop.
Matt

GX20; DA 17-70 F4; 18-55 kit; Ricoh 50mm F2; Vivitar 75-205mm F3.8
johnriley
Posted 03/12/2009 - 00:35 Link
Well I shoot almost always in JPEG, and it's not for the reason stated above.

Firstly, the premium Quality JPEG of the K20D is absolutely good enough to make very fine A3 prints.

Secondly, JPEG files are compatible across a full range of programs and computers with no messing about. Some image libraries demand JPEG files in any event.

So I'll reverse the logic for you and suggest that there's no point not shooting in JPEG unless special requirements suggest that a RAW capture is necessary. Why waste the space and time with the larger files?
Best regards, John
bigcog
Posted 03/12/2009 - 11:42 Link
I always shoot RAW+JPG on highest resolution for the simple reason that I might not be happy with the white balance etc and feel the need to change that and process another jpg in-camera. For the most part I flick through the LCD screen and delete the RAW files and keep the JPG's I want. I keep any RAW files I think I might go back and do a bit more work on, but that's rare. I wish I was more like John above, as he has years more experience than me and probably gets it right first time a lot more so does not see the need for RAW files.
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Utopia Poppy
Posted 03/12/2009 - 13:18 Link
Well, I always shoot RAW only. I like to tweek my shots afterwards, and because I liked the control of processing my own film when I used 35mm, I feel that RAW is the digital equivalent. Even on my honeymoon, where I took hundreds of photographs, I still shot in RAW only. Those shots I was happy with I converted to JPG, specifying the settings I wanted, and the rest I tweeked away with!

I think it's personal preference at the end of the day. There is no right or wrong setting when it comes to RAW and/or JPG, although I think alot of it depends on how much you want to sit infront of a computer afterwards.

Fiona
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Mongoose
Posted 03/12/2009 - 13:53 Link
As has been noted in past threads on various things, one of the truely great things about the K series DSLRs is they are so customisable.

Each of us is free to choose exactly how he or she likes to work and the camera just gets out of the way and lets you get on with it.

Of course this just makes the learning curve for beginners even steeper, but that's why there are entry level models and fairly sensible default settings on the advanced models.
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