I would point out that this features in pp 128 -130 in the K-x manual and it does state there that SR should be turned off when using a tripod

You can still get it set up the way you want tonight - then gripe about the grip tomorrow.

What fun

Didn't Chris at SRS say he has just received a stack of pretty coloured K-x dummies in ?

Sorry you didn't really understand me - later I said we learn what we NEED .

I'm enjoying finding things out at my own pace - and I don't suppose I'm the only one

Hmmm - know the feeling Gwyn.

Yesterday I was expecting a delivery - slot was from 7am to 7pm - WONDERFUL

Good job I no longer have a dog - his legs would have been crossed and double crossed .

Fortunately it poured again so I was happy to stay in . Delivery actually arrived at 4.30pm .

Today - some sun [ briefly ] plenty of clouds , some real rain and plenty of showers

Basically I think we all learn what we need to know for the sort of things we do . This applies really to everything - our work , our hobbies etc etc

If we need more then we go and find out . But at the beginning we need to take it
s l o w l y , till we gain confidence - and that time varies from individual to individual.

I'm still very much struggling with some things . I'm off to France at the end of next week for a week and the K-x will be coming too - to re-take things I've taken before on the P&S and Fuji [ both now defunct ]

I thought some of my original pics were OK - till I looked at them again last night , and I now realise how bad they actually are

I'll be shooting in a wee Church with dark blue decorated walls and side windows though which will come strong light - it's a nightmare to even think about it . I'm just going to experiment this time and hopefully by the next visit [ October-ish] I'll know more .

Nope - it was words to me . I'll settle for the light trail I got by accident - 30 sec exposure on the Tripod - ISO at 200 and I honestly can't remember what the F stop was .

To be able to use it you would have had to practice and practice till it came second nature to you.

New users are not ready for that sort of thing - those who have just come to DSLRs want to know less complicated things - they need to understand the link between shutter speed and aperture , they need to know enough to decide if they want to shoot on Auto [ say Green to them and they would blink ] or Av , then they have to learn about using the other settings .

Curtain trail - it's just words that seem to have nothing to do with camera settings

It's not much better in the K-x manual either - basically, as I understand it, it gives you the light trail but keeps the subject [ ie a car ] in focus too .

I could of course be wrong

Nope - I think he's getting a wee bittie fed up with his