I dont really think the Kx is entry level, its too expensive, it doesnt matter that the price will come down, by that time it will no longer be a 'happening' camera and also wont get the rave reviews as an entry level. Just my opinion but the Km probably fit the bill and the Kx is not a replacement.

Heres a topical short film on the subject.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RKl2sEN4yNM

"An interesting short film about the legality of taking photographs on the streets in the UK. There's a nice interaction between the photographer and a couple of Police Community Support Officers in Central London.

For those who are unfimilar with CSO's, these are not Police Officers, though they are uniformed personnel working with the police in England and Wales. Their function it seems is:

'...to provide a visible and reassuring presence on the streets and tackling the menace of anti-social behaviour.'

NYPD advises officers that photography is not a crime

have you read this? http://fotoeire.com/wordpress/?p=294

Both very good images, catching the excitement of the moment exactly. Is that a firework in the background? Very good timing if it is.
Well lit, good saturation and look very sharp. Topical and saleable photos I should think

Well I'm not sure i can tell any difference, though one picture is 1200 px wide and the other only 1000, wont that make a difference?

hmmmmm
Food for thought. Thanks for the links Clarky, seems the 285 should be okay then (hopefully) I have fired it off a few times in the past and so far the k20d is still fully functional. Suck it and see i suppose.

I have a vivitar 285, I ave used it on my K20d a couple of times but have heard of flash guns frying the electronics on digital cameras.
Does anyone have any experience or knowledge on this before i stat usung flash more extensively?

mattox - i think goa may be a bit far for a first trip, lets keep it to Europe

If its out of season and cheap flights and 4 share a hire car it need not be that expensive.

Just for the record in the UK if you are driving you do not need to carry any papers whatsoever, but if stopped you may be asked to produce them at any police station within 5 days. I have never carried any papers whilst driving for 35 years and have only been asked to produce documents when stopped for speeding.

Thanks Tony - sorted