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On the other end, police in London can be smart enough to actually use photographers in a quite (in theory) well guarded and sensitive place.
This example is a scheme introduced by police at Heathrow airport, directed to the group of frequent and regular visitors (spotters) hanging around the airport fence, taking pictures of planes (I'm myself doing this sometimes as well ), understanding that they are a good source of information about any suspicious activity around the fence, police asked them to register, gave them ID cards (no, these don't give any privilieges), asked them to watch and report anything suspicious.
At completely other end , after this: http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2009/apr/09/bob-quick-terror-raids-leak
I would rather suspect some actions to ban (just in case) telephoto lenses hahaha .

Comment by piotro posted on Tourists forced to delete photos at 19/04/2009 - 01:24

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gartmore, I guess you didn't get the point, which was not to make a shiny, top quality image of the source provided, it was to make something useful, maybe even quite interesting in some way from the source provided (and the worse the source the better). I agree the first RAW maybe wasn't exciting for somebody, but honestly I'm sick with people just moaning, "the picture is not good enough to have a play with it", "we have to see the source to decide if we play", etc., but on the good side, if people will be interested so keep this idea going on, the next RAW will be good enough for some to have a go with it and even better, it will give a chance to those with a good PP skills to show them.

Comment by piotro posted on Raw Challenge #1 at 15/04/2009 - 14:48

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Kenty, Pentax provides RAW browser (called Pentax Photo Browser) and converter (Pentax Photo Labolatory)- free of charge . You can download them here:
http://www.pentax.jp/english/support/download_digital.html

Comment by piotro posted on Raw Challenge #1 at 14/04/2009 - 18:18

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Nice to see some uploads .
I can agree with you saying this RAW wasn't too challenging, but I had nothing bad enough under my hands to start it off with, hopefully next ones will be better.
Proposition is, after challenge ends, each of the participants + person who submitted RAW indicates the best work and secondary best (backup ) in their opinion (but don't point itself ). In case of tie the one with most of 'secondary' wins, as a last resort person who submitted RAW has last word. "Winner" in reward will try to submit another RAW for next challenge. I hope you are ok with this.

Comment by piotro posted on Raw Challenge #1 at 13/04/2009 - 21:42

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We are still at challenge #1, so please hold on with another image, I hope more people will try their skills, so it will not end with your photo only.
And still, why do you post your "base", let people decide for themselves how they want it to look .

Comment by piotro posted on Raw Challenge #1 at 13/04/2009 - 19:15

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Anvh wrote:
you can do everything but can you still call it a photo afterwards, it's afterall a photoforum not an artforum?
You have just answered your question asked a bit earlier.

Comment by piotro posted on Raw Challenge #1 at 13/04/2009 - 18:47

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Anvh wrote:
So was this the idea behind it, I can of course make some fairies dance in the light???
If you think it will look good...
Idea is to get people to try own skills and compare the results, find out what else you could achieve with software you use quite offten (of course if you think you know it well, it doesn't apply to you ).

Comment by piotro posted on Raw Challenge #1 at 13/04/2009 - 18:38

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Stefan, I can't see the reason to check what photo is to decide to try this sort of fun. I personally would like to see a very bad source image (it must be a challenge not a polishing a good pic) and it wouldn't make any difference for me if pic shows a train or tomato (does it matter for RAW converter, photoshop/gimp ?).
And again, what will you recognise as unadjusted jpg?, lets say that when taking source picture (RAW format) WhiteBalance wa set up completely wrongly (i.e. was sunlight when picture was taken more at tungsten conditions), if you convert this RAW to jpg, quite probably converter will use this WB setting, so what base to compare does this jpg represent (same as looking at the RAW provided in fact ).
And I still can't understand why the need to compare it to some base, why not use own creativity to make the jpg out of RAW to look as you think will be good?

Comment by piotro posted on Raw Challenge #1 at 13/04/2009 - 18:30

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This time I will be stubborn. Firstly, competition is for people participating in it in the first place, secondly, people just watching hopefully will see a different pictures (if we get enough people participating ), lastly I wouldn't like people participating to try to compare or match to something given at the start (furthermore, this would be jpg created from the RAW, so already adjusted - even if you didin't touch anything you have adjusted it already , you have choosen WhiteBalance preset, which may not be the best for the scene).
Ideally this should be working in the way when people can't see other's work until the end of competition (but I don't think this is technically possible here), then they can compare own levels of PP skills with other people, and hopefully get a though like i.e. "I didn't know I could pull up shadows so nicely, if I knew I could rescue some of my photos before, how to do that?, hopefully she/he has added a brief saying whast has been done with this photo"

Comment by piotro posted on Raw Challenge #1 at 13/04/2009 - 17:56

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Well, there is link in the first post to download the RAW file, this is the original, without any adjustments. People can download it, make the best (as they think will be) of it.

Comment by piotro posted on Raw Challenge #1 at 13/04/2009 - 17:30

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