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consider the used value of your lens in three years vs the value of your dslr...
If you're considering selling the lens in 3 years then I'd suggest you've bought the wrong lens anyway! The difference in eventual re-sale over that sort of period isn't likely to offset the difference in initial purchase costs anyway - unless you can find a way to purchase the DA12-24 for under say £400.

Comment by niblue posted on Pentax 12-24 at 05/01/2008 - 14:54

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What I saw convinced me of two things; the Sigma was capable of taking very good photos and the Pentax was capable of taking exceptional photos (with visibly less wavy distortion).
The photodo web site has reviews of both lenses in a Pentax mount and their test numbers show the Sigma as actually having less distortion across the frame at 10mm than the Pentax has at 12mm, with the Pentax being a little better at the longer focal lengths. Both are pretty good for such wide angles though. Both lenses are also closely matched for resolution, the Pentax is better for vignetting (both are pretty good) but noticeably worse for CA. Such test results always have to be taken with a grain of salt given they're only based on a single sample of each, however what they do seem to indicate is that the lenses are very well matched, and both very good, optically and therefore the purchasing decision comes down to how much value you (and the re-sale market) put on the Pentax brand compared to a 3rd party one (given the Pentax lens is a joint venture with Tokina anyway) and whether than, plus the handling differences and the constant F4 aperture (certainly worth having although less so in an ultra-wide) offet the lower price and additional width of the Sigma.

When I bought my Sigma I could (and eventually did) get it and the DA16-45 for less than the cost of a DA12-24 and that made the decision a lot easier for me.

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My only complaint about the lens doesn't concern its performance in any way, but rather its size. It's a chunky little fellow and with its hood reverse-mounted it can seem to monopolise space in the camera bag. A fairly minor complaint but a factor worth considering nonetheless. I don't know how the Sigma compares in this respect as I've never seen one in the flesh.
The Sigma is also a reasonably bulky lens - it's inevitable given the focal length range etc.

Comment by niblue posted on Pentax 12-24 at 05/01/2008 - 14:52

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Not a comparison, but I can tell you that the Pentax 12-24mm is a cracking good lens with outstanding optical properties. It also has very, very low distortion making it suitable for architecture. £489 will get you one compared to £429 for the Sigma.
£429 would be very expensive for the Sigma - warehouse express sell it for £289 (and they list the Pentax 12-24 at £629).

If the Pentax were only slightly more expensive than the Sigma, as John indicated in the prices quoted, then the higher re-sale of the Pentax would make it worthy of consideration (although I'd still be tempted by the extra width of the Sigma) - but with a difference really more like £200 in the UK it's a very easy choice IMHO.

I'm sure I'd have been more than happy with either lens though. I had the option of getting a DA 12-24 for £350 when my wife was in Singapore a year or so back but eventually I decided to stick with the Sigma I already had and get her to bring me back a DA10-17 instead.

Comment by niblue posted on Pentax 12-24 at 05/01/2008 - 14:34

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I'm scanning some films from years back and this was a shot I liked of a Hong Kong street at night. It was taken on Fuji 800, almost certainly handheld and I suspect using the FA* 85mm F1.4 & MZ5 (I often used to wander about with just those and a FA* 24mm F2).

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I prefer it in B&W, however here's the colour version for comparison:

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Comment by niblue posted on Hong Kong street at 05/01/2008 - 10:27

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I've just seen that a Vivitar Series 1 90mm macro lens has appeared on e-bay. I think this is the one I remember, goes to 1:2 native and 1:1 with adapter. The dealer's blurb suggests it's a star product but there are lies, damn lies and ....
I don't know that one - all the manual focus Vivitar macro lenses I was aware of went to 1:1 without an adaptor.

Comment by niblue posted on Macro Lens at 21/01/2008 - 12:31

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I too am looking for a macro lens ... don't mind manual.
I seem to remember a 90mm Vivitar lens from some years ago which had a good reputation; is my memory deceiving me and/or is it worth looking for one of these on a well known auction site?
I think there was a Vivitar/Kiron 105mm macro that is supposed to be superb, however they're fairly rare and tend to command quite high Ebay prices.

There are also a couple of Komine build macro lenses badged as Vivitars (I have the 55mm) and those are also very sharp but a lot cheaper (I can'd recall exactly what I paid for my lens but it was in the region of £30 I think). These can be found from time to time on Ebay although the prices seem to be increasing (as they are with many Pentax fit lenses now).

Comment by niblue posted on Macro Lens at 21/01/2008 - 09:01

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There are a few cheaper options you might want to consider as well:

1) Manual focus lenses - there are lots of these pretty cheap, including Pentax ones. Manual focus isn't a problem for macro shooting (it's more reliable than AF anyway) however it might limit the lenses usefulness for general purpose stuff. With older (pre KA) lenses you'll need to work out the exposure when stopped down manually as the K10D isn't accurate with small apertures set.

2) Cosina 100mm F3.5 macro (or the Pentax badged version of the same lens) - It has AF (noisy but fast & accurate) but only goes to 1:2 (although an optical adaptor is supplied for 1:1) but is good optically.

If you're going to be doing a lot of Macro shooting then the Pentax/Tamron/Sigma AF options would definitely be your best option.

Comment by niblue posted on Macro Lens at 06/01/2008 - 14:33

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Unless you're looking for a small lens then the Sigma 70-300 APO Macro is a better option than the Pentax 50-200 and they're about the same price (the Sigma is faster, sharper and has useful macro capabilities). The Sigma is also frequently available used.

I've never used the Tamron 70-300 but I've seen some posts from folks saying it's a good lens.

Comment by niblue posted on Old sigma 100-300 at 04/01/2008 - 12:26

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All donations to my 645 lens fund gratefully received...

Comment by niblue posted on Old sigma 100-300 at 03/01/2008 - 22:28

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I wouldn't touch it if I were you, and I'd be wary of any consumer telephoto that's slower than F5.6 at 300mm.

I paid something like £67 on Ebay for a 2nd hand Sigma 70-300 APO Macro and that is a much, much better lens than the one listed.

Comment by niblue posted on Old sigma 100-300 at 03/01/2008 - 19:48

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