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Comment by MrB posted on K5II choice considerations - a new take at 21/06/2013 - 00:06
However good the Q is, with a standard zoom surely it can't really be described as a "small compact" camera, by comparison with e.g. an Optio?
Philip
Philip
Comment by MrB posted on Which Pentax compact up to £100 at 20/06/2013 - 22:41
McGregNi wrote:
I have evened the gap now for sure - there remains a touch of extra bite to objects on the K5IIs image (with +3 sharpness) than those on the K5II shot (+4 sharpness) - a very tiny difference. There are no apparent negative effects on the K5II shot due to the extra sharpness applied.
Is it correct to assume, Nigel, that in this comment you are still referring to viewing the images at 100%, or is the "extra bite" also visible at normal viewing sizes?I have evened the gap now for sure - there remains a touch of extra bite to objects on the K5IIs image (with +3 sharpness) than those on the K5II shot (+4 sharpness) - a very tiny difference. There are no apparent negative effects on the K5II shot due to the extra sharpness applied.
Philip
Comment by MrB posted on K5II choice considerations - a new take at 20/06/2013 - 18:26
I thought this would be about a software problem with the IIs attached to the 100 macro.
However, the "bugs" are great. I like the first one - whatever happens next, he looks as though he is determined not to let go of that leaf!
Philip
However, the "bugs" are great. I like the first one - whatever happens next, he looks as though he is determined not to let go of that leaf!
Philip
Comment by MrB posted on Bugs with K5IIs and DFA 100WR Macro at 18/06/2013 - 18:33
Smeggypants wrote:
I've never known anyone turn the process of applying slightly more sharpness to one RAW file than the other RAW file into such gripping instalments with cliff hangers at the end of very episode. BBC3 should commission you to do photography shows
Health & Safety implications here - there could be claims against Pentax User, for injuries caused to people who fall off the edge of their seats while waiting for the results! I've never known anyone turn the process of applying slightly more sharpness to one RAW file than the other RAW file into such gripping instalments with cliff hangers at the end of very episode. BBC3 should commission you to do photography shows
Philip
Comment by MrB posted on K5II choice considerations - a new take at 18/06/2013 - 18:14
Of course, Stan - as you have probably guessed, the edit just enhances what a young boy would probably be interested in!
Philip
Philip
Comment by MrB posted on Working on the Railway at 18/06/2013 - 18:03
The first one is an appealing people shot, but it would also be good to see more of those great steam engine details, currently hidden in the shadows. E.g.
Philip
Philip
Comment by MrB posted on Working on the Railway at 18/06/2013 - 14:09
Fletcher8 wrote:
By the time people have agreed to disagree or agree about the K5ll & K5lls benefits, Pentax will have no doubt released the next model. If they release two versions of the next model I think the debate will continue.
If you own a K5ll and you know its a great camera, there is no need to justify it against the K5lls. If you own a K5lls why worry about the people justifying their K5ll.
We all like things for different reasons and spend money in different ways.
With regard to the RAW files, the editing in relation to these files is not clear cut either. People edit images in different ways and some are better with Lightroom or Photoshop than others. In the end the final result is what should be important be it print or in electronic form from either a K5ll or a K5lls
Could this post be one example of several others in the threads on this theme that seem to indicate a lack of both understanding and empathy? Some people either have to be, or choose to be, careful regarding the way they spend their money. For those people the extra £160 (almost 25%) for the IIs over the II might be a big sum to consider. That is not only why discussions like this are important, but also particularly why Raw comparison files, recorded with scientific rigour, need to be made available as evidence, so that potential buyers can process them and consider for themselves the significance of any final image differences.By the time people have agreed to disagree or agree about the K5ll & K5lls benefits, Pentax will have no doubt released the next model. If they release two versions of the next model I think the debate will continue.
If you own a K5ll and you know its a great camera, there is no need to justify it against the K5lls. If you own a K5lls why worry about the people justifying their K5ll.
We all like things for different reasons and spend money in different ways.
With regard to the RAW files, the editing in relation to these files is not clear cut either. People edit images in different ways and some are better with Lightroom or Photoshop than others. In the end the final result is what should be important be it print or in electronic form from either a K5ll or a K5lls
Philip
Comment by MrB posted on K5II choice considerations - a new take at 18/06/2013 - 14:01
Smeggypants wrote:
It's not a waste of time at all IMO. It's all fun and that's what it's all about isn't it?
I agree.It's not a waste of time at all IMO. It's all fun and that's what it's all about isn't it?
microlight2010 wrote:
Maybe it's obvious (it hasn't been referred to so far), but comparisons can only really be valid if the same lens is used for pictures taken with and without an AA filter? Doesn't matter if it's the kit lens or a Limited prime, you can only compare the results if taken through the same glass. Apples and oranges otherwise.
All the DPReview shots used the smc Pentax D FA 50mm f/2.8 Macro (as shown in the exif data in each file). Maybe it's obvious (it hasn't been referred to so far), but comparisons can only really be valid if the same lens is used for pictures taken with and without an AA filter? Doesn't matter if it's the kit lens or a Limited prime, you can only compare the results if taken through the same glass. Apples and oranges otherwise.
Philip
Comment by MrB posted on K5II choice considerations - a new take at 17/06/2013 - 23:53
There will be no apology from me if my previous post has irritated or offended anyone. It was produced in response to the perfectly reasonable enquiry,
"I have wanted to explore the question of whether you can reproduce the same output effect from a standard K5 simply through additional or differing sharpening methods?",
and using a scientific approach to the problem. Scientists often process scientific data from other researchers to inform their own conclusions. It is disappointing that we don't seem to have more data to work with, from several different sources.
Philip
"I have wanted to explore the question of whether you can reproduce the same output effect from a standard K5 simply through additional or differing sharpening methods?",
and using a scientific approach to the problem. Scientists often process scientific data from other researchers to inform their own conclusions. It is disappointing that we don't seem to have more data to work with, from several different sources.
Philip
Comment by MrB posted on K5IIs, how good then? at 17/06/2013 - 18:51
There is still nothing in it though at a full-screen view. The differences start to creep in at about the 70% magnification level.
Philip